Do you have any info on the Arms Trade Treaty?

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I just received this from the Gun Owners of America. If you can shed further light on it, I'll be eternally grateful.

Offhand, I am wary of any "international" agreements on arms control. They are usually aimed at folks like us. There is no international group I know of that I'd trust to develop laws that apply to me.
Louis


Friday, October 22, 2010

In late September, several dozen UN representatives met at the University of Massachusetts in Boston to further discuss their plans for global gun control.

While our President may have a history of being absent for important events -- missing over 300 votes while in the U.S. Senate, dissing important dignitaries who visit our country, etc. -- he was sure to have his administration represented at this meeting.

The final report for the Boston Symposium on the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) is posted online and states that:

"In the end, we seek to achieve an ATT that will establish the highest possible common international standards for the import, export and transfer of conventional arms, including small arms and light weapons, in order to contribute effectively towards peace and stability. This Symposium has brought us one step closer to achieving that goal."

So, they are one step closer to their goal. What are there goals for our firearms?

Apart from using generic phrases like "highest possible common international standards" (aka, gun controls), the gun banners are very careful not to publicly post specific anti-gun proposals that would excite the American public against them. But Paul Gallant and Joanne Eisen, who have attended these UN meetings, spell out what the proposed ATT will really entail.

Writing together with another noted firearms author of the Independence Institute, Dave Kopel, they say that an Arms Trade Treaty would impose:

* Microstamping on firearms, thus increasing the cost of each gun by about $200;

* Registration of all firearms, which is often a prelude to gun confiscation;

* Restrictions on gun sales, especially private transfers (thus, no more gun shows as we know them);

* Embargoes on firearms and materials (such as nickel and tungsten) that would limit access to many of the firearms which are sold in this country.

I’ll never submit to any stinkin' gun control laws!

You might think: "I don't care what the UN imposes on us, I will never comply with their gun controls."

Oh really? So, you’ll never buy a new gun from a gun dealer? Because if you do -- and that gun has been manufactured according to UN treaty standards -- then the microstamping technology on that gun will cost you a couple hundred dollars extra.

Not only that, the signature impressions that the firing pin leaves on your spent cartridge cases will be registered with the government under your name.

No problem, you say, you're not a criminal -- so who cares if the signature from your firing pin is registered with the government.

Well, do you ever take your guns to a shooting range and leave your spent brass? According to Kopel, criminals could easily implicate innocent gun owners by going to gun ranges, collecting the empty casings and dumping them at crime scenes. Moreover, the common practice of selling or giving away once-fired brass could disappear overnight.

Do you still think that a UN treaty won't affect you? The "master minds" at the UN plan to register every firearms sale that passes through a gun dealer and to cut off (make illegal) any private sale that you might attempt as a means of circumventing their controls.

But we can beat this travesty by electing an Obama-proof Senate this November!

Even if the President signs the Arms Trade Treaty -- and he most certainly will when it's completed -- we can strangle this hideous creature in its cradle if he can't get two-thirds of all the Senators to support him.

Help GOA stop UN gun control

That's why GOA is here, fighting to make sure he can't impose a UN gun ban on every American citizen.

GOA has published its 2010 Voter Guide which is available at the GOA website.

And the GOA Political Victory Fund has helped pushed several pro-gun candidates over the hump in their primaries and into the lead for the general election. You can go to the GOA-PVF site to get more details on these races.

Finally, you can help Gun Owners of America continue to spread the word about pro-gun candidates by clicking here and contributing to the organization that is on the front lines defending your gun rights without compromising one inch.

This is crunch time. We are less than two weeks away from one of the most important elections in our lifetimes.

Voters can stop this global tyranny by electing an Obama-proof Congress.

Gun Owners of America

LINK TO THE SYMPOSIUM: http://www.mccormack.umb.edu/arms_tr...conference.php
 
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No big deal. Clinton signed a UN arms treaty years ago and it has yet to see the light of day in the Senate. Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution requires a two thirds vote in the Senate before any treaty the president signs can be implemented. Even Schumer couldn't get that done if he becomes Senate Majority Leader.

IMHO the danger with this administration is what they will try to do by Executive Order to get around the law.

Bob
 
Tempest in a teapot. The 2nd Amendment and its supporters (many of whom are actually democrats) will prevent any imagined gun grabbing and prevent any significant changes to domestic gun ownership. It may restrict international sale/transfer in some ways, but that's a different issue.
 
If the UN ever passed such a thing it would be a big boon for the international gun trade. They could charge more for their surplus AKs etc. Outlaw or ban something and you just drive the price up, witness alcohol during prohabition, or Mexico today. Mexico has some of the toughest gun control laws in the world. It doesn't stop the drug cartels from getting everything they want from M2 50 cals, to RPGs to full auto AKs.
 
While the UN Treaty may be a non issue, the inter-American small arms treaty known as CIFTA is still in the news:

washingtonpost.com

Lawmakers show little enthusiam for this inter-American treaty and it too will likely be a non-issue just like the UN Treaty - thanks to folks like many on this board and organizations like the NRA that keep the pols in check...
 
Why shouldn't the UN try this? They've never succeeded in doing anything worthwhile in their entire history. They have enabled many third world dictators and failed to stop racial genocide in many nations.

Absurd, BS treaty efforts, so lame that I don't even think many of the minority in the 5-4 SCOTUS decisions of Heller and McDonald would support it if it came before them.

Embargoes on nickel, you've got to be kidding??? Nickel is an absolutely essential material for all modern societies, couldn't get along w/o it. Whoever thought of that is mentally challenged at best.

Why don't we let France host the UN? Don
 
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