I let my roommate take out the 15-22 for the first and last time. He reports a lot of feeding issues. I have never had such issues, so after some diagnosis, I found that he was loading wrong. He thought the charging handle was pulled back after the mag was inserted. I haven't had time to test it yet, but how much damage could have been done?
Does my roommate owe me a rifle?
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Vfeldman
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I don't see how he could have caused any damage.
None - it is a plastic gun but cant be that fragile. Many guys here like them but I could never achieve reliability and dumped mine.
G.T. Smith
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I don't ever loan my guns to anybody. I have let my son shoot them occasionally, but I was standing right there. I also never loan my pickup, Chainsaw, or any lawn equipment. I have never had good results. Usually they have certain "tricks" to make them work right, not counting my Smiths.
Why can't you put the mag in then use the charging handle? Surely this wouldn't cause any damage to the weapon.
Peace,
gordon
Why can't you put the mag in then use the charging handle? Surely this wouldn't cause any damage to the weapon.
Peace,
gordon
bennettfam
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Guns are like women that way: loan 'em out once and they come back not the same, and never will be. Looks like you learned the hard way not to lend something out without completely explaining how to use it.
I lent out my weedwacker once to a friend. He nearly burnt it up because he left the choke on and used it under full throttle the whole time.
I lent out my weedwacker once to a friend. He nearly burnt it up because he left the choke on and used it under full throttle the whole time.
Hmmm. Maybe I'm the crazy one. That would be funny since I yelled at him for 20 minutes.
I was under the impression that the bolt should be locked open, mag inserted, then bolt released to properly load. I was worried that mag insertion with closed bolt might cause the feed probs, and damage the rifle or magazine.
Dragon88
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On an AR type platform, loading a magazine with the bolt back then sending the bolt forward is the most reliable way to load the rifle. However, inserting the magazine with the bolt forward then charging is acceptable too. Nothing in the rifle should be damaged, just do an inspection of the internals and if all looks good, don't worry about it.
That said, I never let people borrow or shoot my guns unless I'm right there watching them shoot it.
That said, I never let people borrow or shoot my guns unless I'm right there watching them shoot it.
DownRange&Upwind
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I agree 100%! I ALWAYS charge my handle before firing the first mag, I use bolt release after that. Im not only talking about my 15 22 for using the charging handle first, but both of my .223 AR's as well. This in NO way would hurt the rifle, as its meant to do this. It was a rifle malfunction plain and simple. Yelling for 20 minutes? And it WASNT his fault? Man, you owe that guy a free steak dinner at LEAST.He may not have loaded the mags properly, but in the long run, you should have made sure he was well versed int he use and functions of the rifle,and its proper loading.
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john16443
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I have a suspicion that your roomie wasn't loading the mag correctly, and the bullets didn't 'stack' properly. By stacking, they should alternate in the visible portion of the slot. If they aren't alternating, they may not feed properly. Just pulling the load assist button all the way to the bottom and dumping bullets in there is a sure way to get it wrong. Maybe have him show you how he was loading the mags after you apologize?
bennettfam
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Yeah, apologize to the poor cuss. Unless of course he is the one who drank your last beer without replacing it, in which case you owed him a chewing out anyway.
UpstateNY
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Is it even possible to lock the bolt open without the magazine inserted? I was under the impression the magazine is what actually allowed you to keep the bolt open. Without a magazine, my bolt does not lock open.
szuppo
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It is called a charging handle....
As for locking the bolt back, I'm not familiar with the M&P 22 but on a real AR type rifle the bolt can be locked to the rear by pushing on the bottom portion of the bolt release while pulling the charging handle to the rear.
As for locking the bolt back, I'm not familiar with the M&P 22 but on a real AR type rifle the bolt can be locked to the rear by pushing on the bottom portion of the bolt release while pulling the charging handle to the rear.
UpstateNY
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Ah, thanks szuppo. I don't think I've ever tried that. I've used the bolt release to....release the bolt, but never to lock the bolt open.
+1! The first and last time I loaned a gun, the idiot managed to get arrested! Never again.
Shooting Padre
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Na, the gun's ok and so are you. You may want to let your buddy shoot it again (with you there) to make amends. But I agree with all above, bad medicine to loan out guns.
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