Does S & W read this forum?

There is at least one CEO of a firearms company that pays attention to social media and even encourages emails... Anthony Imperato of Henry Repeating Arms.

And they are prospering... adding guns to their product line based on that feedback, and they can't keep up with the demand.

S&W could take a lesson.
 
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While the average number of posts may be 20-30, the ones that generate pages of discussion about one model or variant might be worth a look.

There's really only one issue on this forum that regularly generates pages and pages of passionate discussion (well, besides the Postal Service, bear ammunition, and open carry). So significant that we have specific rules about discussing it. If a company were going to listen to customer feedback and enact change, that would be the first place they'd start . . .
 
There is at least one CEO of a firearms company that pays attention to social media and even encourages emails... Anthony Imperato of Henry Repeating Arms.

And they are prospering... adding guns to their product line based on that feedback, and they can't keep up with the demand.

S&W could take a lesson.

Henry and Ruger seem to be best at filling niches right now.

Kel-Tec does a good job of creating new ones, though I think they're running out of ideas and their unwillingness to chamber in other calibers is limiting their sales IMO.

There is so much opportunity with S&W, but like Colt and Remington they just don't seem to want to make the leap.
 
I seriously doubt they have any interest here...

They may on occasion (when bad review's show up on U-Tube)
have a passing moment of interest if it is brought to their attention.

What they pay attention to is market share and sales.
Forums like this do nothing for either of those.

If any manufacturer of any product was interested in what their customers thought they would have focus group's to gain insights of the customer's thinking.....
 
I was told by a nice lady that she will not look at the forum

I sent them some magazines I bought new for a cs45 that didn't work right. They were obviously defective.

I started a thread here with detailed pictures describing the problem and some people who know what they are talking about said by the looks of them they obviously have a problem.

I called and talked to someone at s&w and they said I could send the magazines in for inspection.

Some time later I called and asked for an update. The nice lady had no idea what I was talking about. I told her I had sent her some magazines and asked if they read my letter or looked at the thread here on the forum. She told me she will not look at the forum. She didn't know where my mags were. So she sent me two new ones with the same problem. Wow. Thanks for the help! I even emailed her back a few times but never got a response.
 
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I think that if firearms manufacturers were interested in gaining marketing research via forums then they'd be better served making an official forums than browsing fan forums.

I remember that the Walther forums used to have a marketing analyst who would browse the forums and even post in threads semi-regularly, but eventually he got another job working for another company and drifted away. Nobody ever replaced him, (not vocally, at least) but I'm really not surprised seeing how hyper-critical the average user is in regards to Walther and their products, most often going into the realms of outright bashing than constructive criticism, ergo the Walther forums are essentially worthless for marketing research when almost everyone there is against the company, favoring only the Walther of a bygone era with standards which admittedly wouldn't be economical/profitable today.

Granted that the Walther forums are an extreme example, but many other forums have userbases consisting largely of haters/trolls who do nothing but nitpick minor details and bash the company without ever offering any suggestions on how they could improve their business, and the moderators are either complacent or in agreement with such negative sentiments.

Imagine if this very forum hadn't enacted rules against bellyaching over keylocks? There would be out of control whining about it everywhere and if S&W ever came here for research, they really couldn't find any new or helpful information, just the same regurgitated criticism they've been getting for decades which they obviously have no intention of addressing.

Forums can potentially be a good source of marketing research, but only under ideal circumstances in which the forum has a dedicated userbase of fans who regularly preovide in-depth information in regards to how they feel the company could improve and/or the products that they would like to see, as well as a staff who enforces strict rules against bashing, which sadly isn't too common.
So yeah, any firearms manufacturers who are interested in gaining meaningful marketing research from forums would be best served by hosting their own official forums, thus providing a controlled environment in which users would be most likely to provide useful information, and troublemakers would swiftly get the boot.
 
Oh, they look alright. :D Some of them do anyway. ;)

But they will NEVER, EVER post. :p Not in a million years. :D
 
I think that if firearms manufacturers were interested in gaining marketing research via forums then they'd be better served making an official forums than browsing fan forums.

I remember that the Walther forums used to have a marketing analyst who would browse the forums and even post in threads semi-regularly, but eventually he got another job working for another company and drifted away. Nobody ever replaced him, (not vocally, at least) but I'm really not surprised seeing how hyper-critical the average user is in regards to Walther and their products, most often going into the realms of outright bashing than constructive criticism, ergo the Walther forums are essentially worthless for marketing research when almost everyone there is against the company, favoring only the Walther of a bygone era with standards which admittedly wouldn't be economical/profitable today.

Granted that the Walther forums are an extreme example, but many other forums have userbases consisting largely of haters/trolls who do nothing but nitpick minor details and bash the company without ever offering any suggestions on how they could improve their business, and the moderators are either complacent or in agreement with such negative sentiments.

Imagine if this very forum hadn't enacted rules against bellyaching over keylocks? There would be out of control whining about it everywhere and if S&W ever came here for research, they really couldn't find any new or helpful information, just the same regurgitated criticism they've been getting for decades which they obviously have no intention of addressing.

Forums can potentially be a good source of marketing research, but only under ideal circumstances in which the forum has a dedicated userbase of fans who regularly provide in-depth information in regards to how they feel the company could improve and/or the products that they would like to see, as well as a staff who enforces strict rules against bashing, which sadly isn't too common.
So yeah, any firearms manufacturers who are interested in gaining meaningful marketing research from forums would be best served by hosting their own official forums, thus providing a controlled environment in which users would be most likely to provide useful information, and troublemakers would swiftly get the boot.
Very interesting post. The ideal marketing research forum you describe bears a striking resemblance to this one - with one exception. S&W doesn't have to dedicate the resources to managing it. Lee and his team does that. So why wouldn't they monitor it?
 
Most big companies don't want suggestions.......

The bottom line is all they care about. Someone with a suggestion is told, maybe in not so many words, to go mind their own business.

We had a finished paper product that was mangled when it rolled off the the line because it was rolling in the wrong direction and the crew taped the mangled end down. They have product 'turners' in some places on the line already. A guy figured and measured and came to the conclusion that there was room for a final 'turner' to prevent sending out mangled paper. He was pretty much told to not to make trouble. And if you go around that person who is on a higher level, your behind is grass.
 
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Very interesting post. The ideal marketing research forum you describe bears a striking resemblance to this one - with one exception. S&W doesn't have to dedicate the resources to managing it. Lee and his team does that. So why wouldn't they monitor it?

For all I know, perhaps they do.
 
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Last time I checked there is a 34 page thread on another forum in the reloading section about Alliant Powder BE-86 and a member who works for Alliant Powder posted many times . His input and knowledge was very helpful and appreciated. So some companies out there are watching forums.
It would be nice to have a Smith & Wesson insider on this forum to be able to throw ideas at . I do remember very well the a Colt custom shop rep that would post on the 1911 forum he was a great asset that was there to help . Shame that Colt didn't appreciate the great job that he did. Brent thanks for the help.
 
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Being this site is probably one of the largest S&W{unaffiliated} forums I imagine S&W does visit this forum from time to time at least. With the new robots seen on forums I imagine they are there for a reason. Who owns the robots is another question.
I have seen as many as 5 robots listed online at the same time on another gun forum and it makes me wonder by who and why they are there. I believe nothing these days goes without notice.
 
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