Does S&W Still Make?

Does S&W Still Make?

Not as far as anyone knows. It seems that the last of the 3rd Gen agencies, WVSP, CHP, NYPD, RCMP are transitioning to something plastic.

The only all metal pistols that S&W seems to make are 1911 pattern guns.

WVSP just went to Glock. Happened recently.

On another note, bought a second 3914DAO (NYPD) today at Cabelas in Fort Mill, SC. Came with box, mags, everything ($435). Paid a lot more for one earlier this year on the big auction site. These were made up until 2015...maybe 2016. Carried one for the second half of today. :)

Ryan

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Mine just came in....

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Nice.

If those are the later production TSW's, made '06-'07 or later, they have all the latest revisions and machining improvements.

There was a 4566/63TSW barrel revision back about '06, which I only noticed by accident when comparing barrels of 2 new production 4566TSW's we'd received. The barrel lug at the rear of the barrel looked different on each of them, so I called the factory and asked about it. I was connected to one of the engineers by a tech guy I knew (as an armorer who had called about questions now and again). The rear barrel lug (ring) that used to fully encompass the barrel ahead of the chamber was changed, meaning the it was eliminated on the bottom of the barrel. I was told that ongoing R&D had caused them to determine it was no longer required to be machined on the bottom of the barrel, and served no purpose. (The barrel's feedramp and chamber mouth, meaning the roll-over notch at the top of the ramp, also looked a little smoother and cleaner on the revised barrel.)

This was about the same time I noticed they'd started removing (or "pre-breaking", as it was described) a thin section of steel on the left side of the firing pin channel, adjacent to the ejector depressor plunger channel (on the rear), connecting those two machined channels at the rear. I was told that newer machining methods allowed them to remove that small section of steel, which had normally been subjected to developing a non-critical "crack", anyway. (You'd never be able to see it unless you removed the manual safety assembly and knew what to look for, anyway. ;) )

Kind of like how the thin section of steel underneath the extractor, inside the R/side of the slide's channel next to the pickup rail, used to develop a curved crack, or one small side of the disconnector notch used to have that thin section of steel break and fall out. I was told that newer production methods allow them to remove those thin spots of steel where stress risers often developed and caused those non-essential small bits of steel to break off and fall away under repeated recoil.

Anyway, you've probably got your hands on the last state-of-the-art 4566TSW's to come off the line. Congrats. :)

I had a chance to buy one of our late-production 4566TSW's when they were phased out, as I'd briefly carried one as an issued weapon back about '07, but passed on it in favor of buying a 3913TSW. I'd hand-selected that particular 3913TSW when it was unissued and still NIB, and carried it for only a brief while before the TSW's were all replaced with M&P's. Our late production TSW's all had the riveted rails, because the guy who had ordered our new stock had declined the offer of having the 4006/4566TSW's produced with the machined integral rails (at no extra cost). :mad: They were also ordered without the Melonite treatment.
 
Nice.

If those are the later production TSW's, made '06-'07 or later, they have all the latest revisions and machining improvements.

There was a 4566/63TSW barrel revision back about '06, which I only noticed by accident when comparing barrels of 2 new production 4566TSW's we'd received. The barrel lug at the rear of the barrel looked different on each of them, so I called the factory and asked about it. I was connected to one of the engineers by a tech guy I knew (as an armorer who had called about questions now and again). The rear barrel lug (ring) that used to fully encompass the barrel ahead of the chamber was changed, meaning the it was eliminated on the bottom of the barrel. I was told that ongoing R&D had caused them to determine it was no longer required to be machined on the bottom of the barrel, and served no purpose. (The barrel's feedramp and chamber mouth, meaning the roll-over notch at the top of the ramp, also looked a little smoother and cleaner on the revised barrel.)

This was about the same time I noticed they'd started removing (or "pre-breaking", as it was described) a thin section of steel on the left side of the firing pin channel, adjacent to the ejector depressor plunger channel (on the rear), connecting those two machined channels at the rear. I was told that newer machining methods allowed them to remove that small section of steel, which had normally been subjected to developing a non-critical "crack", anyway. (You'd never be able to see it unless you removed the manual safety assembly and knew what to look for, anyway. ;) )

Kind of like how the thin section of steel underneath the extractor, inside the R/side of the slide's channel next to the pickup rail, used to develop a curved crack, or one small side of the disconnector notch used to have that thin section of steel break and fall out. I was told that newer production methods allow them to remove those thin spots of steel where stress risers often developed and caused those non-essential small bits of steel to break off and fall away under repeated recoil.

Anyway, you've probably got your hands on the last state-of-the-art 4566TSW's to come off the line. Congrats. :)

I had a chance to buy one of our late-production 4566TSW's when they were phased out, as I'd briefly carried one as an issued weapon back about '07, but passed on it in favor of buying a 3913TSW. I'd hand-selected that particular 3913TSW when it was unissued and still NIB, and carried it for only a brief while before the TSW's were all replaced with M&P's. Our late production TSW's all had the riveted rails, because the guy who had ordered our new stock had declined the offer of having the 4006/4566TSW's produced with the machined integral rails (at no extra cost). :mad: They were also ordered without the Melonite treatment.
Gun was made in April.of 2011.
 
Yes, keep an eye out. I picked up a NIB 4563 TSW on here a couple of months ago. The one I hade before, I sold when I retired as it was my last duty weapon. Regretted it immediately. All happy again now thanks to XANTH on here!
 
Good luck.... it's a "Goldilocks" gun..................

The 4506/05 are great guns but tooooo big for civilian concealed carry.........

The 4516 was small enough for concealed carry but just toooo heavy for it's size

the 4566 is just right the right size and weight for a duty .45 !!!!!!!!


All that said my winter carry .45s are Sig 245s or a W Ger. 220.....
 
Good luck.... it's a "Goldilocks" gun..................

The 4506/05 are great guns but tooooo big for civilian concealed carry.........

The 4516 was small enough for concealed carry but just toooo heavy for it's size

the 4566 is just right the right size and weight for a duty .45 !!!!!!!!


All that said my winter carry .45s are Sig 245s or a W Ger. 220.....

The 4506 is the same size as a Government Model 1911 and those are CCWed all the time by everyone.
 
I hate the attitude that one shouldn't look at a particular gun because it's "too big for concealed carry".

Well I got news, some of us open carry or just carry in our houses or want a nightstand gun. All guns don't have to weigh 15 ounces and fit in a pocket to work as a defensive option, so long as concealment is not needed for that particular need.
 
Glad some of you managed to get some of those WV trooper pistols, you are lucky men and yes I am very jealous (happy now?).
 
I hate the attitude that one shouldn't look at a particular gun because it's "too big for concealed carry".

Well I got news, some of us open carry or just carry in our houses or want a nightstand gun. All guns don't have to weigh 15 ounces and fit in a pocket to work as a defensive option, so long as concealment is not needed for that particular need.

LOL......My first .45 3rd Gen auto was a 4516 which I replaced with a early 6 shot 4513TSW. But it was pre-internet days and I couldn't find enough of the 6rd magazines in LGSs....... so I switched to the Sig 245.

I have had a both a 4506 and a 4505; great guns and as you said about the size of a Colt 1911......

Like Goldilocks ....... I tried them all until I found the one right "for me"!!!

When I held my first 4566.... my first reaction was....."this is the gun for me!"

As you stated others needs are different. I tried them all and the 4566 suited me and my needs best!

Same pattern with the 1911s I started with Government 5" models and ended up with LW Commanders.
 
Alright, guys, I'm about to have a mental breakdown!! :eek:

How the heck can I get ahold of one of these WV trooper guns?? I'm prepared to pay any price and do any deed, this is one gun I MUST OWN AT ALL COSTS!!!!
 
I work at the West Virginia State Museum. Recently we got a donation from the WVSP of two guns, a WVSP-logo M&P 15, and a WVSP-logo 4566TSW. I think the TSW was never carried (no wear marks) - possibly used as a training or range gun. Barrel shows some bluing wear, and it has a scratch on the rear sight. Otherwise, perfect. Solid steel, melonite, one of the mags in the matching blue plastic box never had the tape taken off. I can handle it (from our safe with the Collections Manager's blessing). Wish I could go shoot it...
 
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