Smoke
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Not everyone subscribes to your scorched earth policy
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Not everyone subscribes to your scorched earth policy
TexasArmed
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It does take money to sue people. It takes no money for me to
let the State and the Dog Owner squabble over who pays for
my emergency care and wound care if I am bit by their dog running loose. I am perfectly willing to use my exempt non attachable status to avoid making payment for the irresponsible
dog owners damages. I don't blame anyone for wanting to sue
the dog owner, it might be hard to collect damages though if
the dog gets one free bite in a particular state. That's why I prefer to let any such bill go unpaid. Not worried about credit, I buy everything cash.
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Well cmort666 has already portrayed me as a peace loving hippie so I'll continue along those lines so our very own General Sherman doesn't lose face... 
Trooplewis is old school and doesn't need a lawyer to fix everything. There is hope in the world! A man with reason that sees that life ain't always beautiful.
Burn their fields and their houses! Rawr! Death and ruin to all who oppose me.…get real.
"This ain't Dodge City and you ain't Bill Hickok."
Trooplewis is old school and doesn't need a lawyer to fix everything. There is hope in the world! A man with reason that sees that life ain't always beautiful.
Burn their fields and their houses! Rawr! Death and ruin to all who oppose me.…get real.
"This ain't Dodge City and you ain't Bill Hickok."
Smoke
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Why not just make arangements with the dog owner to pay for any necessary medical treatment?
Recently read an internet article about a pack of chihuahuas that were harassing and causing a lot of trouble for a neighborhood in Phoenix. Chihuahuas are often fearless [bred to go after rats] and are like collared peccary, or javelinas, in that while one or two aren't a particular problem, a pack can be. In the article I read, the pack of chihuahuas were estimated to contain over 35 members.
Hodgin
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Based on my experience with the breed, I'm not surprised. I've said that if chihuahuas weighed 30 lbs they'd be the baddest dog around.
TexasArmed
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As long as he pays them directly and I do not pay them first, no problem. But I don't intend to unload them on the VA health care system just because the state does not hold him responsible if its the dog's first bite. And if he does pay them six months of wound care would not be uncommon and would be quite expensive for him. Just a possibility he might want
to drag his feet.
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I used to ride an electric scooter, top speed was about 23 MPH, and I would go everywhere on it. I can testify that plenty of dogs can run 23 MPH or faster, but not for long. I would swing my legs to the other side of the bike away from the teeth and wait until they tired out.
Interestingly, I got chastised many times by dog owners for "teasing their dog". Apparently, if the dog catches you, the owner's okay with that. It's the "getting away" that rankled both owner and dog. And yes, we have a leash law.
Interestingly, I got chastised many times by dog owners for "teasing their dog". Apparently, if the dog catches you, the owner's okay with that. It's the "getting away" that rankled both owner and dog. And yes, we have a leash law.
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I used to live in a small mountain town. The sad reality was that city folk (mostly college kids ) from a nearby college town would turn their unwanted dogs loose to fend for themselves when they got tired of them. Those nice family dogs formed some pretty mean packs. One day, a bunch of dogs attacked the children at the school bus stop. The town members got together and we went to the hills. In a few days, there wasn't a stray dog to be found anywhere. I don't know how many we shot but it was quite a few. We collected collars for those that had one and turned them into the county sheriff. Word got out that stray dog packs will be shot on sight. No questions. No mercy. No exceptions. That's still the rule today. If people love their dogs, they have to control their dogs. There has not been a repeat of the stray dog pack attack problem and that was back in the early '70s.
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timn8er
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It does have a humorous side to it, but piranhas aren't very big, & when they attack as a group the results can be devastating.
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Well I wouldn't be worried about a pack of chihuahuas either. MagPul makes 40 rd magazines for a reason. Although a few turkey loads from a 12 gauge would clean house if that's what needed doing. Other options would be a slicked up Winchester '73 with fourteen rounds onboard. It's tough to believe that after three or for shots you'd have anything hanging out.
MagPul makes 40 rd magazines for a reason. Although a few turkey loads from a 12 gauge would clean house if that's what needed doing. Other options would be a slicked up Winchester '73 with fourteen rounds onboard. It's tough to believe that after three or for shots you'd have anything hanging out.
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Smoke
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Probably the most humane thing you could have done for them
Smoke
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Piranahs attack in a medium that allows them to get higher than my ankles and I can't step on a Piranah
Well I wouldn't be worried about a pack of chihuahuas either.
What makes you think you'd need more than a br
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venomballistics
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What makes you think you'd need more than a br
A broom might work out just fine ... but it's just not nearly as gratifying
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Go ahead. Mess with me. I'll chew through your Achilles tendon!!
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planojack
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Consider aluminum "nucks" Years ago, when my doctor insisted that I take up jogging, there were three large dogs on my run that thought my ankles looked tasty. One VERY hard slap to the dogs head ended the problem. No more dog chases. Aluminum is lighter than brass.
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What makes you think you'd need more than a br
There's up to 35 of them. Imagine a race ready '73…firing as fast as you can cycle it. It's totally fitting. Yo quiero Taco Bell? Look here yippie rat...there's a new sheriff in town. There's probably a use for that broom... Whacking the negligent owners prior to filing a lawsuit! Or we could use it as a torch for scorched earth!
Or you could use the 3 gun ready AR and tap them into oblivion without reloading using a Surefire or MagPul 40.
Shotgun has neither romance nor technology so the only reason to use it is to unceremoniously and efficiently kill the whole bunch of them. The man with the well worn shotgun is to be feared and respected.
Smoke
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Go ahead. Mess with me. I'll chew through your Achilles tendon!!
In 1992 I had a second job working for Domino's. I was delievering a Pizza (imagine that) one night and the homeowner's little yippy dog bit me on the Achilles tendon.
The dog was literally so small that I had to look twice to make sure I really was seeing what I was seeing.
I informed the owner that her dog just bit me, delivered the Pizza and went back to the shop. My Manager insisted that I go to Emergicare (company policy) and have the "wound" looked at.
The folks at Emergicare put some Neosporin and a Bandaid on my heel. (The dog looked like he was gnawin' the Hell out of my leg but didn't even break the skin) and sent me back to work.
I don't know but I'm fairly certain the customer got a bill from Domino's
Sad that it has to come to this. Anyone who turns an animal loose like this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It's shameful.And thats the way you handle that problem!
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Personally I think it's great that the community came together to solve its problem. It cut through countless yards of red tape and no municipal resources had to be wasted to solve the problem. If we had more of that we wouldn't need some government organizations...where I'm from volunteer goes a long way.
trooplewis
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In my personal opinion about the state of the nation, lawyers are a much bigger problem than a minor dog bite, and I do everything I can to avoid putting more money in their pockets. We have become a people who think that if anything bad happens to us, we have been wronged and someone should pay for it.
In this case the dog may have to pay with its life, as Animal Control is still investigating. Getting money from the owner doesn't make my leg heal any quicker or feel any better.
There are some people who no doubt deserve to be sued, but there are a lot more opportunists who look for reasons to sue simply to get financial gain. The courts are clogged with them, and they are everyone's problem financially. TANSTAAFL still applies...all of us end up paying for those big judgements you read about every day.
And I apologize if someone reading this is part of the 3% of all attorneys who get a bad rap because of the actions of the other 97%
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TexasArmed
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I hold both the irresponsible owner and the state responsible for
my diabetic wound care. When the State or the irresponsible animal owner gets tired of paying for 6 months of diabetic wound care it may reform their attitude a bit, and get laws changed. As for me, I will not use the VA health care system
to treat wound care caused by dog bites, but will leave them
holding the bag. So if I get sued for the medical bill, I will come
after them. If the dog owner has no money to pay, then its the
states problem, not mine. Second thing is if I see the dog coming he won't make it to my leg. I expect six months of wound care is no big deal to some but its a big deal to me.
I am determined not to unload such bills on the VA overburdened health care system so its on the
dog owner and the state. it has been my experience that there are far too many animal lovers
who are in the state government unless the state is the one having to fund the hospitals when they
don't get paid.
Hospitals like to be paid, and I do not pay them for such care,
unless I caused the problem. So if I incur those expenses someone else is going to have that problem, not me. If it
takes legal action fine. If they have a one free bite privilege
the hospital may not get paid.
cmort666
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You WERE wronged. The dog bit you, not vice versa. And by your own admission, you're not the ONLY person who was wronged.
It's completely your right if you want to make some kind of dubious statement against lawyers by letting somebody REPEATEDLY let his dog(s) run loose so that it may harm innocent people. But hey, if that dog or its replacement tears up somebody's kid, it'll be THEIR problem, right?
trooplewis
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That is why I reported it to Animal Control, the dog is now quarantined.
If I had incurred medical expenses, I would have sought reimbursement, but all it cost me was some oversized bandaids and antibiotic creme.
As for the "what if" argument (What if is was a child or an old person...), no doubt that is a legal favorite. But my crystal ball is broken, so I can't answer for the "what if" stuff.
If I had incurred medical expenses, I would have sought reimbursement, but all it cost me was some oversized bandaids and antibiotic creme.
As for the "what if" argument (What if is was a child or an old person...), no doubt that is a legal favorite. But my crystal ball is broken, so I can't answer for the "what if" stuff.
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trooplewis
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LOL, I got a letter today from an attorney who specializes in dog attack cases. Says he wants to get compensation for me for any physical or mental suffering I have incurred from the dog bite. I guess when I filed a complaint with San Diego Animal Control, that must have become public record.
In my mind, that attorney is just a 1/2 step removed from being an ambulance-chaser. My wife got a good laugh out of it as well, said maybe he could get me back the $14 I spent on oversized bandaids and Hydrogen Peroxide. The scab on my leg is now (two weeks later) down to about the size of a nickel and no more bruise. I got worse scrapes while skate boarding as a teenager.
In my mind, that attorney is just a 1/2 step removed from being an ambulance-chaser. My wife got a good laugh out of it as well, said maybe he could get me back the $14 I spent on oversized bandaids and Hydrogen Peroxide. The scab on my leg is now (two weeks later) down to about the size of a nickel and no more bruise. I got worse scrapes while skate boarding as a teenager.
