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I was at the park fishing the other day with my daughter when a couple guys bring their dogs. They were not pit bulls but may have been cane Corso? I'm not sure since I'm not too big of a dog person but they were very intimidating.
They had them off their leash and one started making its way towards us. He didn't look to be on the offense but didn't look like he wanted to play either. I put my gear down and positioned my girl behind me and was ready to say something to the owners when they called the dog back and he listened.
I was kind of hesitant to even grab my pistol as there were other people there but I obviously can not tell what the dogs intentions were and did not want to find out. Especially with the dog attacks we have been having down here.
What would you guys do in a similar situation?
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Leash laws are in place but not as enforced as they should be.
This took place in Miami, FL.
 
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you did well, I would have done the same, but be ready for the owners as they can go crazy about their dogs.
there was a case here a few weeks ago where at a pet co store a pit bull attacked a smaller dog and the owner of the small dog could not get the bull dog off his dog so he stabbed the pit bull killing it. no charges were made.
 
I am a dog owner myself (Salukis and mini dachshunds) and I think you did right. Had the dog(s) continued, or shown any agressive tendencies, I feel you would have been well within your rights to shoot to kill the dog(s). Actually, I would prefer you had shot the dog owners, but that tends to cause problems with those bureaucrats who wear the blue serge suits.
 
I probably wouldn't have paid much attention to the dogs unless they did something to appear aggressive, but I do agree that these "problems" are by far the making of the humans and not so much of the canines. Illegal to shoot people! (except for obvious reasons :))
 
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As a good friend of mine used to add to all of his emails, "some people are alive today only because it is illegal to kill them".

You did the right thing. Drawing your gun would be correct only if the dog was close enough to threaten you and you really believed you were in danger. All dogs are naturally inquisitive and if left to their own devices they will roam, and sniff everything within their entire world, including you.

Cane Rosso dogs do resemble pit bulls, some are even red, as the name implies, some are black or maybe other colors. They're bigger than most pit bulls, even the American Staffordshire as far as I know. If they left their ears alone they'd be cute but those clipped ears make them look nasty.

You didn't say how close he got but dogs are unlikely to simply run at you except by command unless they're already running or you do something that gets their attention (for whatever reason and however insignificant what you do might be; dogs are weird that way) so 30 feet is about as close as I'd allow before I pulled a gun.

At some point if possible I'd call the owners to call their dog.

***GRJ***
 
I carry pepper spray when I ride my bicycle every day. I would rather spray than deal with the aftermath of shooting a dog.

Two legged creatures have caused some interesting rides for me. I carry a gun also.

David
 
Love trained, well behaved dogs and leashed in public. My 2 Labs are well versed in sit, stay, down, no etc.

I was duck hunting and a late arrival guy was walking in via a trail about 25 to 30 yards from the lakes edge. I saw him coming and had my Male lab in sit. His male lab saw us and started towards us at high speed.

He kept calling ole Biscuit eater, and it got louder each time. I feigned indifference and pretended to look at the sky like I actually was duck hunting. The dog continued to ignore the person he had been training.

Finally the guy came after ole Biscuit eater. He said how do you get your dog to sit and stay like that. In my best British stiff upper lip I said, "it's called training to be used while quietly duck hunting". He got the message and left.

That is only one of many times other folks dogs have come over ignoring the loud screams of here!

Once my wife and I were fishing we had our labs, and no swimming was allowed then, before we left yes. A couple pulled up close by let their 2 mix males out and here they came, the owners ignored them. I'm thinking do they think I'm gonna baby sit these 2 flea bitten 50%Pit cross droppers?

When it was apparent they were going to fish and not watch their dogs I asked them nicely to come retrieve their illigiti dogs so we could fish. They gave me a pained look. Yes I pack. Most of the time my size might be a deterrent. But I pack any way. I then told them to come get the dogs. They said they wouldn't stay anyway. I said since I can't fish and baby sit your dogs I'll go get 2 leashes out of my car and have these 2 illigiti's minding in 5 minutes, ya wanna watch. And if either tries to bite anything over hear I would only hope they are not allergic to lead. They loaded up their poles, bait and cooler. Got the dogs and left giving me a look like I was a bad guy....

My wife was afraid of these surly dogs. She said you were a little rough on them, I said not rough enough.

And further more leash laws are a joke. We have them in our retirement burg. One can't sit on the porch or go in the yard with out some stray dog barking at ya. I just tell my labs to sit. If the owner of the cur is around I tell them to come get it if they want to keep it.

I love my labs, I am thinking of getting a Rotty next time, all I have to do is train him to retrieve ducks, stray dogs and lippy owners.
 
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All things considered I would do pretty much what you did, except that my hand would be on my pocketed pistol... just in case. I have no trust in or respect for people who let their dogs roam free in such public areas.
Perhaps their dog is trained.
Perhaps he is very friendly.
Perhaps he will not bite.
None of that obligates me to taking a chance with the safety of myself or family. Many people have learned that lesson the painful way. :cool:
 
Thanks for the replies guys.
The dogs came up about 15 yards from me. The owner was casually walking towards his dog calling him back before he turned and left us alone. They were obviously trained as they went to the other side of the park and we're doing their drills but how would I have known that?
I've thought about pepper spray but it would not have done us good as the wind was blowing and I would hate to catch back spray and have a dog on us as well.

I have had quite a few dogs growing up and am well aware of their habits... Not other people's dogs though.
There was a recent story were a kid was playing outside and out of no where a dog came and attacked him in his own front yard. The injuries were bad. No warning or anything.

Looking back, I had my strong side facing the animal. If I was in that situation again, I would put my weak side first with my strong side behind me allowing me to grip my pistol without anyone seeing what I was doing.

My main concern if I were to shoot at the dog, how would I or anyone else know he was going to attack before it was too late?
 
You'll only make that mistake once......

Baloney. What makes you think I'd consider it a mistake? I have no fear of dogs of any breed.

As for pepper spray, why bother if you're already carrying a gun?
***GRJ***

Pepper spray? Already carrying a gun? I haven't said a thing about either. Why are you asking me about pepper spray? And I don't carry a gun everywhere I go, either.
 
As a dog lover you still need to remember that they are animals and a dog the size you were dealing with does not give you second chance with children present . Not saying that Cane Corso are more dangerous that any other but that type of dog in the peacefull city of san francisco killed a adult woman trying toget into her apartment . This was 5 or 10 years ago and the people that owned the dog were anything but steller citizens and had trained the dogs to be mean .Google the story and Cane Corso . What you did was the right thing keep an eye on them maybe leave the area but at some point you need to make it clear to the owner he needs to control his dog
 
I work with dogs every day, so I'm not afraid of them either, but that doesn't mean I would trust a loose dog that was acting aggressive. If you think that just because you aren't afraid of dogs they can't or won't attack, you are fooling yourself. Definitely smart to be on guard in a situation like that and be prepared to defend your daughter (as the OP did). I personally do carry pepper spray (as well as a gun), and I would be prepared to use either.
 
As for pepper spray, why bother if you're already carrying a gun?

I'm not a police officer, but they "bother" with pepper spray, even though they are already carrying a gun.

Why shoot and kill, if there is a non-lethal way to resolve a situation?

As a practical matter, it's probably easier to hit a moving dog with pepper spray than a handgun.

And if you kill someone's dog, you are "asking" to be killed by the dog owner.
 

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