Don't learn from the movies about guns?

[sirrduke2010]

I watch so many movies handling a semi-auto when the criminal or victim is threatening someone else and the hammer is down on a single action semi-auto. Now if it is double action that is a different story. How about the safety being on?

Being shot in vital areas and being able to crawl, stumble, drive, and/or walk for another hour. Possibly if a minor wound but a major wound that is bleed profusely?

Being able to shoot more than 7 times with a revolver without reloading or being able to shoot with a semi-auto greater than 20 times with one clip. Be able to use a semi-auto pistol as an automatic weapon. I know about the small Mac 10s and the Uzi's but this is the size like a government model but I guess there could be something new soon.

I like the "Underworld" movie where with one clip you could shoot automatic and have endless rounds but when the magazine is shown there is only 7 rounds. I love those Ultraviolet rounds that have Silver Nitrate in them and if you shot them at people with a plastic shell how many with enter the skin or just shatter and splatter the person.

I wondered about the western scenes in the old movies using a SAA and being able to wave the hammer and blow off 5 shots in a row with accuracy without any kick. They had to be blanks.

How about putting a round in the chamber with a semi auto. The technique of many actors on the screen when pulling the slide back would have many losing palm flesh if it was in reality.

Basically the other premise is that the bad guy is usually a bad shot but the hero is usually a good shot. I have seen that philosophy begin to end in some recent TV shows.

Dodging a bullet I saw in "Remo Williams" where the Asian gentlemen was able to dodge every bullet fired. I will have to look that up in the category of Martial Art extraordinary.

I want to say they are getting better about the reality but make believe just can't embrace reality completely. I found a movie that gave some truth to being shot was the movie "Blood Simple." The more recent movies and TV shows the participants changing magazines, reloading their guns, and showing a kick when a weapon is fired.

 

[GKC]

If you want to learn about firearms, the movies are the last and least effective resource you can use. They are entertaining, but movies don't concern themselves with accuracy in their depictions...instead, they go for dramatic effect. I enjoy watching movies, but I have to remind myself that much of what they depict, not just about guns, isn't even close to reality...and it's just for entertainment, not education.

 

[BaldEagle1313]

My rule about movies is "the book is always better than the movie".

Exception to the rule - The Natural. They changed the ending. I'm not sure that made it better, but they would never have made the movie if the ending had been left the way it was in the book. Robert Redford isn't going to end the movie by striking out and taking the money.

I love looking for the inconsistencies in movies. Especially continuity errors. You know, like if they're making a film about JFK and they show a 1966 Lincoln in the background. Or worse, a piece of dialog calls a car a 1966 GTO and the car that shows up is a 1969.

 

[charliek]

Recently watched "Zombie Apocalypse" on SyFy. They set a Browning M2 .50 cal. on a shopping cart, had a link belt about 2' long, and fired non-stop at the zombies, and the belt didn't even move, no recoil. Amazing.

 

[Bombsaway]

I was walking through the den the other night and my wife was watching some cop show. A cop was entering a dwelling carrying a Glock and I heard the distinctive sound of a hammer being cocked. LOL

 

[Martya]

How about when the good guy and the bad guy are sneaking around an abandoned factory - filled with stuff, of course - taking pot shots at each other, then suddenly the good guy gets the drop, they face each other, and after some minutes of clever banter the bad guy says "You won't shoot, you're out of bullets" and the good guy dramatically racks his last round. Never see the live 2nd last round that was in the chamber, eject.

 

[Lost Lake]

And all the shots hit and make sparks. On wood railings, cardboard boxes, cement floors...

And they can soot off locks and shoot a chain in half. Ever try to shoot a chain? Can't be done.

 

[Armed Babysitter]

The movies and tv is probably where you got the term "clip".

I like it when they bust in a door of a house filled with armed criminals, then all the cops start racking the slides to chamber a round.

I watched an episode of "Person of Interest" last week or so where the lady cop racked the slide on her gun at least 3 times while clearing a building, without firing a shot.

I enjoy it immensely when on some of these forensic shows, the crime scene investigators will storm into a house or building ahead of the SWAT guys in full body armor and helmets, while the CSI's just have a windbreaker with a logo.

Its also funny when someone is shot once center mass and they're dead before their body hits the ground.

My wife hates watching gun movies/tv shows with me. I point out all the mistakes and goofups. I'm getting better though about just keeping them to myself.

 

[Armed Babysitter]

And they can soot off locks and shoot a chain in half. Ever try to shoot a chain? Can't be done.

Yep, bout 10 years ago me and a buddy fired several 30-06 rounds at a chain, it was severely deformed, but still intact after all the abuse. Locks can be shot off, but a chain, nuh uh, not happening.

 

[9c1 lover]

The movies and tv is probably where you got the term "clip"".

you beat me to it.

 

[GKC]

I really enjoy the "Prey" novels written by John Sandford...but in one of his later books, he described a character as picking up a Glock and clicking off the safety. Now, how difficult is it for a mystery writer to do even basic research? Even worse, I have read detective or crime novels where the character takes off a safety on a revolver!

I could get very frustrated with movies and books, with the mistakes and errors...or, I could just accept that they are not writing technical manuals or documentaries, and accept that they are just entertainment. I try to look at the errors as just amusing...like shooting 14 shots from a six-shot revolver without reloading.

 

[Silversmok3]

My faves:

1911's that have regenerating magazines. How else can a 1911 shoot 30 rounds from a flush 8 shot magazine?

How did Rachel Weisz's S&W 3913 shoot 28 rounds from a standard magazine? One suspects its the same technology at work.

Alonzo Harris' 4506's looked something fierce in Training Day pointing at the rapist on the fence.Note to Denzel Washington, they'd look even meaner with the safeties off.


Im still searching for the hammer-fired Glock. It must exist, as several major movies have shown characters cocking a hammer on otherwise ordinary looking Glock models.Perhaps its a California-only model?

If I run into Mel Gibson, I will need to ask why his character in Lethal Weapon felt he needed a laser sight in the last movie.I would imagine a man who shoots smiley faces with a Beretta at 50 yards could only be held back by the laser.

One hears much deserved hype about Cor-Bon and hydra shock ammo, but I am still on the lookout for the ammunition company that makes the rounds that are so packed with energy that they fly back ten feet from a 9mm round impact.Is that a +p+++++++ rating or a different scale entirely?

 

[9c1 lover]

1911's that have regenerating magazines. How else can a 1911 shoot 30 rounds from a flush 8 shot magazine?

How did Rachel Weisz's S&W 3913 shoot 28 rounds from a standard magazine? One suspects its the same technology at work.

Alonzo Harris' 4506's looked something fierce in Training Day pointing at the rapist on the fence.Note to Denzel Washington, they'd look even meaner with the safeties off.


Im still searching for the hammer-fired Glock. It must exist, as several major movies have shown characters cocking a hammer on otherwise ordinary looking Glock models.Perhaps its a California-only model?

If I run into Mel Gibson, I will need to ask why his character in Lethal Weapon felt he needed a laser sight in the last movie.I would imagine a man who shoots smiley faces with a Beretta at 50 yards could only be held back by the laser.

One hears much deserved hype about Cor-Bon and hydra shock ammo, but I am still on the lookout for the ammunition company that makes the rounds that are so packed with energy that they fly back ten feet from a 9mm round impact.Is that a +p+++++++ rating or a different scale entirely?

it's not 9mm thats why you cant find it. try ANY brand in .45acp for the 10 foot fly back action. i thought everyone knew this?

 

[Lost Lake]

The movies and tv is probably where you got the term "clip".

I used clips with my M16. The clip is a common item, but it is not a magazine.

 

[Silversmok3]

it's not 9mm thats why you cant find it. try ANY brand in .45acp for the 10 foot fly back action. i thought everyone knew this?

I dont know, Mr Blonde in Resovoir Dogs flew back pretty far from the 9mm lead Mr Orange sent his way from that Model 659 9mm.Maybe the ammo company went out of business, which would be odd as id imagine everyone would be lining up to buy that kind of sweet SD ammo.

 

[Firespec35]

I used clips with my M16. The clip is a common item, but it is not a magazine.

No, no you didnt. A M-16 as do all other Ar variants use a detachable box "magazine" people using the M1 garand or the sks used stripper "clips." feel free to Google if you have any questions

 

[AZretired]

No, no you didnt. A M-16 as do all other Ar variants use a detachable box "magazine" people using the M1 garand or the sks used stripper "clips." feel free to Google if you have any questions

The M1 uses an "en bloc" clip, not a stripper clip. The '03 Springfield was loaded with stripper clips. With the propper attachment M16 and M14 mags can be re-loaded with stripper clips.

 

[K1500]

No, no you didnt. A M-16 as do all other Ar variants use a detachable box "magazine" people using the M1 garand or the sks used stripper "clips." feel free to Google if you have any questions

Are you unaware that a M16 magazine can be loaded via 10 round stripper clips? Feel free to Google it. Ah, never mind, AZ beat me to it.

 

[kbm6893]

If I run into Mel Gibson, I will need to ask why his character in Lethal Weapon felt he needed a laser sight in the last movie.I would imagine a man who shoots smiley faces with a Beretta at 50 yards could only be held back by the laser.

One hears much deserved hype about Cor-Bon and hydra shock ammo, but I am still on the lookout for the ammunition company that makes the rounds that are so packed with energy that they fly back ten feet from a 9mm round impact.Is that a +p+++++++ rating or a different scale entirely?

They explained the laser grip use. Gibson's character commented on getting older and his eyes not being what they usd to be. At the end, he aimed the laser at a piece of metal, which bounced the dot off that to the bad guy around the coner, and he took he shot, hitting the bad guy around the corner! Guess nobody told him bullets with actual mass will react differently to hitting a metal object than a red dot!

At the end of "Cellular", the cop shoots Jason Statham with his Beretta 9MM, and the impacts literally lift Statham, a 220 pound man, off the ground and he flies bck 10 feet into a wood frame, knocking it down.

 

[Lost Lake]

No, no you didnt. A M-16 as do all other Ar variants use a detachable box "magazine" people using the M1 garand or the sks used stripper "clips." feel free to Google if you have any questions

No need for me to Google anything, I know what a clip is, and all our ammo came on clips.