Effortless Way To Seat A Stiff Shield Magazine
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805moparkid
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that dosn't seem to safe... what i did is break down the mags and cut 1 coil off the 6 round mag and 1/2 off the 7. much easier to load and install...
805moparkid:
Saftey is on and firearm is pointed in safe direction.
I believe my technique is just as safe as slaming the magazine with the force of a hammer hitting a nail.
If you prefer you can do it with one hand and the free hand griping the slide.
Russ
805moparkid
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on the slide? always hold it like your in control, grab it by the grip and just install the mag... you gonna reload it like that if your at a range or god forbid a stressed situation?
team sidewinder
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I can see maybe using that method at the range or at home but no bad guy is going to wait while you reload that way in a self defense situation which is why many CC the shield. Slamming the mag home like you were hitting it with a hammer is not dangerous in any way compared to the recoil these guns take when shooting.
If I need more than 8 rounds to end a close-up stressful gun fight I have no business packing.
I consider myself above average in hand and ARM strength and I have difficulty seating my Shield 9mm magazine and my wife can not seat it period using your method. That is why if she decides to pack we will look at a revolver.
I realize my method is unorthodox but I am not going to cut the spring and risk feeding issues.
If you want to slam your gun go for it. I got tired of sore palms.
Russ
I can't believe this thread. There is no shortage of guns out there that work, magazines included. Why put up with this one?
Grjfer
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There is a female shooter at our gun club, bout 5'4" 125lbs. She has no problems seating her mag in her shield. Then again she may be "above average in hand and ARM strength."
Shielded
You bring up a good point. When the chamber is empty a fresh magazine drops in effortlessly. When chambered that last 1/4 inch to click is like setting a rat trap.
My intent with this post was to provide an alternative for anyone finding it difficult to seat a Shield magazine if they wanted to top off the magazine.
I know if I had arthritis I would appreciate knowing it is possible to top off the Shield magazine.
Russ
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Generally, a new magazine is going to be somewhat stiff.... Eventually, that'll go away.
Besides the 10# sledge out in the garage (works well, PITA to carry), the magic is to put the mag into the gun with the slide open, and just close the slide, chambering a round. Don't try to then top off the magazine, and don't try to insert a fully loaded magazine into the gun with the slide closed. (Some people prefer to NOT chamber a round....)
DO top the magazine when it's out of the gun, and in storage.
Eventually, the spring will soften up enough to make things work as advertised.
I don't recommend cutting a coil off the existing spring - eventually, when the magazine spring gets it's groove on, it may be too weak to be reliable.
Confession: I don't have a Shield yet. I do have three M&Ps, and a bunch of single-stack and double-stack 1911's. I also had a Walther PPS. All of these seem to have had issues of this type with new magazines. Just IMHO, this is inevitable with a double-stack magazine, and likely with a single, unless somebody's spec'd a light spring, which may not be right.
DO be patient - it takes a while....
Besides the 10# sledge out in the garage (works well, PITA to carry), the magic is to put the mag into the gun with the slide open, and just close the slide, chambering a round. Don't try to then top off the magazine, and don't try to insert a fully loaded magazine into the gun with the slide closed. (Some people prefer to NOT chamber a round....)
DO top the magazine when it's out of the gun, and in storage.
Eventually, the spring will soften up enough to make things work as advertised.
I don't recommend cutting a coil off the existing spring - eventually, when the magazine spring gets it's groove on, it may be too weak to be reliable.
Confession: I don't have a Shield yet. I do have three M&Ps, and a bunch of single-stack and double-stack 1911's. I also had a Walther PPS. All of these seem to have had issues of this type with new magazines. Just IMHO, this is inevitable with a double-stack magazine, and likely with a single, unless somebody's spec'd a light spring, which may not be right.
DO be patient - it takes a while....
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I don't carry, so perhaps I am all wet, but if someone needs more than 6 or 7 rounds to take down a bad guy at close range, then they should get more training and/or spend more time at the range. When I still hunted I prided myself in needing 1 or 2 shots at most. I marvel at the nimrods that fire off a whole magazine at one poor deer.
This kind of defeats the purpose of "train as you fight" why would u NOT want to top off. I would guess if your used to NOT TOPPING off just to make it easier to load a mag. you will prob forget to top off when you CCW. Just top off leave the mag in the weapon for a fews days and it will work out. the shield 9mm is a 7/8 round mag not a 6/7. The shield 40 is a 6/7 round mag not a 6/7. And cutting a coil off a magazine spring? WOW your just inviting a malfunction of some kind
team sidewinder
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Well in a perfect world and the best possible senario where the bad guy stands there and lets you shoot 6 or 7 rounds without moving you would be correct. Paper targets at a range are a whole different game. In a world where you carry your pistol/revolver concealed for SD and may be involved in a very stressfull BG SD encounter you better be carring an extra mag and top off before you run your first mag empty. Even LE who practice way more than the average joe under stressfull situations have poor hit ratios on BG in a real deal situation.
For you and maybe others your method works well for you and thanks for sharing. Good luck out there.
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I store my Shield 9mm topped off with 8 rounds using the flush magazine (store in Gunvault) and it is just as stiff to seat magazine today as the day I purchased it in April 2012.
Russ
805moparkid
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see thats why i cut a coil... my GF couldn't even load the clip past 2 on the 6 and 4 on the 7 mag... and my FTF got better by doing it... first time out we had a FTF once or twice every mag(both mags) and now its down to one or two for 100 rounds... and i also store mags loaded to get them to chill. that being said all my 1911 mags can be loaded by holding the clip in one hand and loaded with the same hand! no FTF, so i think these are way over tension...
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I don't usually top mine off at the range because I don't consider that a critical aspect of training for the fight. I probably wouldn't have time to top off during a fight so I usually don't bother with it at the range.
I do top off when I CC (bad guess MP1SG). The mag has not gotten any easier to seat since I bought the gun in June despite keeping it fully loaded at all times. But I don't have much trouble seating it while maintaining a normal grip.
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The magazines are a tiny bit hard to load full than empty ,but a reload would be loaded with the slide back/open which makes it all irrelevant. I've had other guns where the mag needed a little extra push to insert on a closed slide, but if you're carrying, the hard one to insert is already in the gun and even if you do a reload on a closed slide, it's not hard enough to hurt one's hand.
Those looking to find fault with the Shield on this site and others seems to be about equal to those finding faults that don't exist. Keep the mags loaded, use them at the range and they'll get softer in no time.
Those looking to find fault with the Shield on this site and others seems to be about equal to those finding faults that don't exist. Keep the mags loaded, use them at the range and they'll get softer in no time.
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