Ever been bit by a Copperhead?.........

A few springs back my neighbor helped me dig a pond for the cattle. He was on the dozer when he unearthed a nest of copperheads. There were snakes crawling off in every direction. He got so freaked that he started chasing them with the Cat treads. Running over a copperhead with a Caterpillar doesn't kill them; the treads just push those snakes into the dirt.

I carry a Governor when I'm out during the spring of the year. East Texas must be the home of the copperhead; they are everywhere out here.

Glad to hear you're getting better. Be careful and stay safe.
 
This was about 5 seconds before this one done a full out charge on me. Darn things can be aggressive!!
Showed me I can still move pretty fast if I have to. :)
It's still living as far as I know.
 

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I had a copperhead encounter once, the snake coiled to strike and within less than one step of my loafer-clad feet.

I quickly drew my Colt Government Model, and as I aimed at the snake, the snake lined itself up with the barrel. I opened fire, saw the snake "twitch" each time I fired (don't know whether or not I hit it), then it slithered away, really fast. I got off 3 or 4 shots., shooting really fast . Then there was another one, really close. I jumped up on the porch, and emptied the last few rounds of 45 ACP at the snake and it, too, slithered off really fast.

The only good snake is a dead snake.

Actually, Skeeter Skelton mentioned that a rattlesnake would align its head with a gun muzzle, probably because it might be the closest part of you and therefore represent the danger, from the snake's viewpoint.

I don't know how well that works, and it'd only happen in some cases. But I think Skelton shot a lot of rattlers and that the theory is sometimes valid.

I also think the snake might follow the motion of the gun barrel, as a cobra follows the flute of a snake charmer. It's moving.
 
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A few comments:
1) My daddy told me way long time ago that those 'tough old cowboys' who claimed to be bitten by rattlers, copperheads, or any other poisonous snake were either 'real' cowboys (read: tall tale tellers [polite language for 'liars']), or they got bit by snakes that had used up their venom somewhere else and hadn't replenished the supply yet (read: real lucky).
2) I'm one of those who can't hear a rattlesnake rattle more than an arm's length away--at least the timber and prairie rattlers in this area. Haven't had the opportunity to test it with any big diamondbacks yet.
3) Re: stun guns helping to 'defuse' snake venom--I remember as a kid, reading an article in one of the outdoor magazines about bird hunters using car batteries and jumper cables to 'first aid' snake bit dogs, to slow any ill effects until they could get to the vet. Then later, I read something about tests with stun guns, which showed that the shock would do something to the venom to weaken it, maybe reducing the effects. IF there was a stun gun present, should I get bitten, I'd try it; after all, what harm could it do? But there would still be a fast trip to the ER.
4) I've been bitten a bunch of times by black snakes and (I think) Brown Reticulated water snakes. Spooky kind of thing, but other than U-shaped teeth marks where they struck, and dirty underwear, no harm no foul.
5) Likely, if I ran into a poisonous snake--especially anywhere other people might be around--I'd kill it; but I'd save the skin and, if it's big enough, the meat.
6) Glad the OP is healing nicely. Acebow
 
One Friday afternoon my identical-twin brother and I were detailed to clean out a ditch behind a apartment complex using sling blades and brush axes. I had the axe, he had the sling blade... more like a grass whip type thing made by True Temper... extremely handy little wicked sharp thing. Neither he nor I wanted to be in that ditch as we were sure there were snakes around. Sure enough... after about maybe half and hour... I say my brother get weird. He made a odd noise... like a shout that didn't quite make it out of his mouth. He took his right foot and stomped down hard at he left foot. He then took his knife and started slashing at his foot. He'd been hit by a whopper rattle snake that stuck him in the foot. He cut the head off w/ his knife and then grabbed the tail and threw the body of the snake out of the ditch. It landed across the hood of the truck. About that time my father pulled up on the tractor... just about the time my brother had finished all the good cuss words he knew in English... and was beginning to invent some new combinations. He come up out of the ditch with that snake head suck on his knife. My father... who did not tolerate any of us boys using cuss words shut the motor off on the tractor... and got a ear full of what my brother was putting out. He was in the process of hopping off that tractor and would probably have given my brother a bit of educational process on not cussing... but he saw the body of the snake on the hood of the truck... looked at us and said, "Load it up boys!" That was a big fat snake... well over three foot long. The next time we worked that apartment complex, my father worked the ditch w/ a tractor. Later that year he gave it a dose of poison to kill down the heavy growth. It always was a nasty thing to chop and work down. Never have been able to tolerate snakes... except out in the woods when they are no threat to me. JMHO. Sincerely. brucev.

Forgot to mention... the snake hit my brother on the inside of his left foot where the leather was double thickness so it did not get to his skin. I don't know if my brother killed it first by stomping it or cutting it's head off with the knife, but when he was finished that thing was deader than Dicks hatband! Don't know why now... but as I look back on it, it kind of makes me snicker. Sincerely. brucev.
 
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Must be spring, snakes are coming out of the dens and our snake detection systems are on alert.

We swam in a swimming hole. We checked for snakes prior to starting and if someone yelled snake we cleared the river in seconds.

In the Indiana Jones movie where they lifted the cover and threw in a torch to see all the slithering. Indy said Snakes, why does it always have to be snakes. I understood immediately.
 
I have lost count of how many copperheads I have killed over the years. Closest I ever came to one biting me was back when I lived down in Houston. I had broken ankle at the time and I was in a cast. I was out in the back yard pulling weeds and sitting on a stool to do so, and moving along kind of bouncing the stool. I reached down for a handful of weeds and my hand was within inches of a coiled copperhead. A nice big fat one too. Fortunately it was early spring, and early in the morning. Just cool enough the snake was not fully functional or I would have been bitten for sure. Even with a broken ankle a fat man can jump backwards and hobble off pretty quickly to get a shovel (my favorite tool for dispatching snakes). The snake was still there and still coiled when I got back with a shovel, and quickly chopped it into several pieces. There is nothing like a well used sharp shovel blade for doing the job.

Where I live now out in the country in Deep East Texas, I kill any poisonous snake I find on my land. I have a dog that is far too dumb to deal with snakes as she likes to sniff everything new. I also have plenty of non-poisonous snakes around, and I only kill them if they are right by the house. Out in the barn, I don't bother the non-poisonous ones as they eat mice and small copperheads, when they find them. King snakes are especially good snakes to have around, but also bull snakes and others are helpful.

We have a large black snake in each of our two barns. They are not poisonous but you do have to be careful when reaching up on a top shelf as you never know where they are. These both do have teeth, just not fangs.
 
Actually, Skeeter Skelton mentioned that a rattlesnake would align its head with a gun muzzle, probably because it might be the closest part of you and therefore represent the danger, from the snake's viewpoint.

I don't know how well that works, and it'd only happen in some cases. But I think Skelton shot a lot of rattlers and that the theory is sometimes valid.

I also think the snake might follow the motion of the gun barrel, as a cobra follows the flute of a snake charmer. It's moving.

Personally,I think that theory is pure bunk TS,although I've heard it espoused on numerous occasions. If it were true,you wouldn't even have to aim your pistol at the snake,just wave it around a little bit and pull the trigger. I've shot a LOT of snakes in my life. Very few were left headless unless the weapon at hand was a shotgun. Until I SEE it happen,I shall remain unconvinced.
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I'm not so sure...the place we was working at. Had a snake handler on site because they run into a lot of copperheads.

Pawatch--I knew it was not a Copperhead--it's not a pit-viper, one can tell from the head--but I was off on species. See below, one of my freinds is a herpetologist. If you fool with him after he scares you to death, it won't be just you own underdrawers you will smell!

No problem, John. It's a Northern/Midland Watersnake (Nerodia sipedon). We have the same species in AR; probably different subspecies (or regional variant) though. It's nonvenomous, lives near the water, and feeds mostly on fish. They will bite and poop/musk with some voracity if handled, however.
 
Whenever one would set up residence in the campground around my remote ranger station and campground, I'd have to wrangle a rattlesnake when I was a Grand Canyon Park Ranger. I'd pick them up with a trash stick that had articulated jaws I could use to pinch the snake at the base of its head. Then, I'd carefully lift them and place them into a pillowcase that I held open with my free hand. The dominant rattler species, Grand Canyon Pinks, usually quieted right down once they were in the pillowcase, allowing me to release their head and use the jaws of the trash stick to carry the pillowcase out away from my body as I hiked down the trail and into the brush to release them.

In the nine years I worked there, I must have collected and relocated around a couple of dozen, and each encounter elevated my pulse and blood pressure. It wasn't one of my favorite duties, but I didn't want any visitors or campers struck by rattlers. My campground was seven miles down the North Kaibab Trail, and a rattlesnake bite meant an air medivac to the South Rim Clinic for treatment.

One time, after capturing and releasing the head of a Pink into the pillowcase, the snake struck at my leg, which was about a foot from the case. I felt the blow as it hit the pillowcase, and saw the fangs oozing yellow venom protruding through the fabric. The fangs stayed stuck in the fabric for the entire half mile hike to the site where I released it. Another time, early in the morning before the sun rose over the Canyon wall, I walked out of my Ranger Station with a full cup of coffee in my hand, and stepped off my patio right onto the back of a Pink. If it had rattled a warning, I couldn't hear it because of the noise of Bright Angel Creek, which flowed nearby. As soon as my weight came down on it, however, my lizard brain instinctively responded. I don't know how I did it, but I somehow jumped straight into the air, reversed direction in midair, and lunged back up on the porch in a couple of long strides, coffee flying everywhere, without getting struck. When I turned, the snake was streaking off into the brush in the opposite direction. It took me a few cigarettes and a couple cups of joe to get my heart rate and pulse down after that incident.

Wildlife is typically protected inside a National Park, unless there is a serious and immediate threat to public safety involved. On my own private property, however, I won't hesitate to kill a rattler, and I've done so several times. Having horses and pets to protect, I value our four legged fuzzbutts a lot more than rattlers. We lost a horse that was struck in the nose. Although we got the horse treatment, the damage was done. A couple of weeks after the incident, we found our four-year-old Thoroughbred lying dead in our lower pasture. The vet said the rattler venom had attacked its heart, weakening the muscle, causing coronary failure. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of rattlers.
 
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Never seen a Copperhead. Seen plenty of Diamond Backs though. I like snakes with rattles, at least you have a chance to avoid them most of the time. I've been very close to several that were coiled but avoided being hit. I fished a lake in TX with my dad that was infested with Cottonmouths. He shot several that day and I saw at least 5. They seem to be more aggressive than rattlers. They came out of the water and passed right by me. The fishing was good however but I couldn't enjoy any of it. Combat fishing at it's finest. He didn't seem to have a problem with it. If they took his bait he just reeled them in and shot them.

Hope you heal up without any complications.
 
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Copper Heads?

I,m the guy that always gets called to come kill / catch Copper
Head. 99% of time it's not. As to color, they can be picture book
examples right after molt, to almost black towards end of cycle.
I was skinning one and found 7 "Lima bean" type pouches. Enclosed in each one was a tiny, perfectly marked, snake.
The meanest snake in these parts is the common water snake.
This is snake blamed to be Copper Head. The people who never
seen a CH are the ones who misidentify.
 
Aloha,

Tanks a lot.

I am NOT letting the Wife see this thread.

As of now, We are moving to Texas in 2018 when the Wife retires.

You all haven't seen anything until you see how a Hawaii guy(or girl)

reacts to a SNAKE.

As my Texas friend said, if we were bird hunting in Texas and I saw a

SNAKE, How much Air did I get and Damn, he didn't know I had a Full Auto

shotgun.

Since we plan to getting property outside of city limits, the Wife says she

will be wearing her Beretta to keep the furkids safe(ours will go nose to

nose with anything they see). Her Beretta will go Full Auto on said Snake.

AND, If it's still moving, She Will go for the reload.

Guess who will be doing clean up?

BTW, how does one dispose of a Dead poisonous snake safely so our dogs

don't get to it?
 
The only issue with disposing of a poisonous snake is the head, cuz of the fangs and possibility that venom is still present. Cut it off, bury it deep, and cover it with big rocks, unless you can burn it in your trash barrel. Others may have different methods. BTW: pigs love to eat snakes, as do some folks. They say it tastes like chicken, but I've never tried it.
 

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