Expensive Phone Call

Sorry if I digress. The catalytic converter made me think of my grandson. He was driving my daughter's old Honda Element and had to spend the summer in Des Moines as an intern for a law firm getting his lawyer's license. They put him up in a motel and one night some crooks tried to steal his converter and had to bail out before they got it done. He was able to get into a muffler shop and get it welded where they were trying to saw through the exhaust pipe. Parked his car the next night under a lighted parking lot but they came back anyway and completed the theft. You absolutely cannot believe how loud that little Honda was without the converter. I think it cost him around $1400 to get it replaced. Fortunately the insurance company paid for it.
 
Just out of curiosity, why was the original engine replaced? Glad it was cheaper than expected to replace the cats!

We bought the car used from a Hyundai dealer. I found it online, and when we went to the dealership to buy it, it was being used as a loaner. We had to wait another day to get the car, as they had to get it back from the person who had it. It was late in the day when she brought it back, and the dealership just ran it through a quick wash while we did the paperwork. I didn't get a chance to check under the hood until after we got it home (40 miles away), and that's when I found NO oil on the dipstick. The following morning I got on the phone to the dealer, and he sent a man down with a loaner and to pick up this car. Needless to say I was a little warm under the collar.

The dealer contacted me later after viewing the service record and said they would get the engine replaced by the factory. Seems the service record showed a couple of times the previous owner had brought it in complaining of excessive oil consumption, the major symptom of a problem with Hyundai engines.
 
Grover, everything works and runs well when it's new.
When that KIA/Hyundai gets to be 5 years old and/or 150,000 miles on them, you'd better be getting rid of them. My niece got skinned alive on a Hyundai. She bought it before I knew.

Sugarpuss has an 03 Cellica with 333,000 miles on it. It doesn't burn oil. The steering is tight. The transmission is fine. I change oil in it every 5000 miles.

The Chrysler V6 3.6 Pentastar and the Ford 3.7 Cyclone V6 are great engines. I have one of each.
 
My 2018 Ram pickup has the V6 Pentastar engine and it has been great. I drive with a lead foot it still gets 20 mpg in the city and has 235,000 miles on it. Truck has plenty of power and I've only had few repairs and it runs just like when it was brand new. The inside looks very good also and the outside would look just as well if people would quit bumping into me in parking lots.
 
Does it burn oil? Most late model 4 cylinders are notorious for burning oil and killing cats, due to the type of oil control rings and relatively thin oil specified by the manufacturer. This is a problem for all brands, with and without direct injection. I've seen many a Toyota and Honda suffer from the same thing. My Honda Accord was a cat killer, and I've never seen another with more than 80 or 90k not be an oil burner.

I eventually just knocked the guts out of the converter and tricked the computer with an 02 adapter and never worried about it again. However, my state doesn't have emissions tests.

If you watch South Main Auto on youtube, you'll see that it is a common problem, and in NY it means sending the car to the crusher as the costs of the cats and limited lifespan due to rust means its financially a bad idea to just fix the problem and then have it happen again down the road. To properly fix it, you would have to put new cats in, pull the motor apart and re-ring it, and that is not an repair bill any of us would want, especially in the rust belt.
I doubt your "fix" work in Clark County NV. When my BMW diesel was smogged, the guy is required to look and see if it still has an EGR.
 
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