MORSNO
US Veteran
All these fake support animals we are seeing are really hurting the legitimate service animals (registered). It will take those with the real service animals to rid us of the fakes, anyone else will be called for discrimination.
fake service dogs
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There were some pretty women at the store a couple weeks ago. I thought they had brought their support monkeys with them. Turned out to be their boyfriends and husbands.
DeathGrip
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Seriously, it bugs me, too. Sometimes I wonder if it's just the latest fad to call your pet a "service" animal, "therapy" animal, "comfort" animal, or "emotional support" pet.
I saw on the news where some people use guinea pigs and even miniature horses as emotional support pets. Aw, c'mon! Gimme a break! Is it that they just want attention or what?
I know of one gal who carts this little dumb-lookin' ankle-biter type dog around saying that it's her "emotional support animal." She takes that dog everywhere...even to church. Of course, everybody flocks around her to see her cute little dog...wanting to pet it, etc. Personally, I think she just does it for the attention. But who am I to say? The little mutt has an official-looking jacket that says he's an emotional support animal, but I found out that you can get those on-line.
Hmmm. That just gave me an idea. I'm gonna see if I can get one of those "emotional support pet" jackets for my mule Scotty. Maybe I could get away with takin' him to church.
I think the pew in the front would be most appropriate.
Have a sister in law qho goes everywhere with her pet lab. She called it her "Therapy dog" maintaining she has PTSD from Katrina. This really pisses me off because I know several people who do in fact carry mental trauma from the storm (another sister in law for example-who does NOT have a service dog-but does have two pet dogs) and I can see their pain. This sister in law NOW claims that the dog is a diabetic dog trained to detect her blood sugar level. This is absolute bravo sierra as this dog has been a family pet since puppyhood and I know for a fact has not been sent off for training as a diabetic dog-if this would at all be possible for a 5 year old family pet.
She just wants to be able to take the dog with her wherever she goes and this has really set me, and a lot of other people off. Is there some way I can turn her in for faking this???? This really burns me up as there are people who genuinely need and benefit from these service dogs and this sister in law is just doing this to get attention and gain sympathy.
There has GOT to be a law against this!
Washington State has laws. I know one for sure that a service dog must be "in uniform" usually a service dog vest. And if you are in a grocery store and get caught lying about your "service dog" huge fine.
chuckie
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I'm told in my bassackwards state of Assachusetts that one cannot even ask if a service dog is legit.
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Can you imagine this next to you on a long flight or trying to evacuate in an emergency!! US Dept. of Transportation Rules Airlines Must Allow Miniature Horses to Fly as Service Animals - The Drive
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I think Angus had learning problems at Service Dog School and our esteemed member is steamed that his "pet" sister-in-law is getting all the attention. She needs to share with Angus.
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carpriver
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I have a golden that is my support dog. She comes and laying on me when I am have PTSD issues. she is not trained and she dose not travel with me. She is a great support for me; she is a natural.
I'm not a lawyer, BUT...I work at Walmart (15+ years) and probably see more "service animals" in one day than many people see all year.
Basically, all a store employee can do is ask the customer if the animal is a service animal and if so, what task has the animal been trained to perform. If the customer says yes it's a service animal trained to do xxxx, end of discussion, even if the person is lying. No proof or documentation is required.
If the animal becomes aggressive while in the store or shows itself at some point not to be "house trained", you can tell the customer to remove the animal from the store and the customer can return to the store without the animal.
For the most part, stores (not just Walmart) don't say anything to the customer for fear of being sued.
And by the way, a therapy/comfort/emotional support animal is NOT a service animal and not protected by the ADA.
WOOF!!
Frequently Asked Questions about Service Animals and the ADA
Basically, all a store employee can do is ask the customer if the animal is a service animal and if so, what task has the animal been trained to perform. If the customer says yes it's a service animal trained to do xxxx, end of discussion, even if the person is lying. No proof or documentation is required.
If the animal becomes aggressive while in the store or shows itself at some point not to be "house trained", you can tell the customer to remove the animal from the store and the customer can return to the store without the animal.
For the most part, stores (not just Walmart) don't say anything to the customer for fear of being sued.
And by the way, a therapy/comfort/emotional support animal is NOT a service animal and not protected by the ADA.
WOOF!!
Frequently Asked Questions about Service Animals and the ADA
True, that is part of the federal ADA stuff. But Washington gets around that with restaurants and food stores as it is a health code violation unless the dog is exempt. They have the legal right to ask under those grounds.
I have an emotional support woman.
Travel with her pretty much always. And I'm her emotional support man. We tend to hang out together for our mutual emotional well being. Been doin' it quite a while, too.
So far, when traveling, no one's asked asked for proof of the emotional support legitimacy, but got a marriage certificate, somewhere...
Travel with her pretty much always. And I'm her emotional support man. We tend to hang out together for our mutual emotional well being. Been doin' it quite a while, too.
So far, when traveling, no one's asked asked for proof of the emotional support legitimacy, but got a marriage certificate, somewhere...
In the past, it was just an expression...
You got to admit he is kinda cute. And if you have those long delays or crash up in the mountains, he will fry up in a jiffy!
Bullseye 2620
Member
Here's where it get interesting. The ADA differentiates between an emotional support animal and a psychiatric service animal. The former gains its status just from being with the owner -- a companion animal. The latter must be trained. The former is not protected by the Act. The latter is. For example, a person who suffers panic attacks might have an animal trained to detect the onset of such an attack and to respond in a way that prevents (unusual) or mitigates (typical) the panic attack either in severity, duration, or both.
I have had two patients in the past couple of years for which I prescribed psychiatric support animals to help treat panic disorder. We were not able to train the cats in question to detect an impending panic attack before it occurred, but we were able to train the cats to snuggle in a certain way once the attacks started, and patients indicated that this indeed reduced the intensity of the attacks, during which a person can feel that he or she actually is going to die.
Abusing the legitimate use of psychiatric service animals is just plain wrong. The people who do this are the same crowd that demand gluten-free everything, as if they ever had a bout with real celiac disease. Had they, they would know better than to claim having a painful progressive disease simply to get sympathy and attention. It must be simply awful not being a special snowflake!
I have had two patients in the past couple of years for which I prescribed psychiatric support animals to help treat panic disorder. We were not able to train the cats in question to detect an impending panic attack before it occurred, but we were able to train the cats to snuggle in a certain way once the attacks started, and patients indicated that this indeed reduced the intensity of the attacks, during which a person can feel that he or she actually is going to die.
Abusing the legitimate use of psychiatric service animals is just plain wrong. The people who do this are the same crowd that demand gluten-free everything, as if they ever had a bout with real celiac disease. Had they, they would know better than to claim having a painful progressive disease simply to get sympathy and attention. It must be simply awful not being a special snowflake!
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DWalt
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One of my physicians is in a group practice. One of the other doctors in that joint practice has two service (or maybe companion) dogs, fairly small ones. I do not know what his disability/condition is that he needs two dogs, except that he strikes me as being rather old to be a practicing doctor. I always see him with his dogs as he walks around the office with them. Sort of strikes me as unsanitary for a doctor's office.
Nahh...too easy, take him on the airplane.Seriously, it bugs me, too. ... I'm gonna see if I can get one of those "emotional support pet" jackets for my mule Scotty. Maybe I could get away with takin' him to church.
Southwest will accommodate you.
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daglockman
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I bet her support animal has a medical marijuana card also....
And cigar.
