Federal small pistol primers

[magnum12pm]

Slightly off topic but you guys seem to be in the know. I can use any brand of primers in any of my Smiths, 'K' frames, 'L' frames, 'N' frames, autos, no problem.
Regarding primers for shotgun, I bought 1000 Nobel Sport to try them and my Browning BT 100 will not fire half of them, they work fine in the Remington 1100's. The firing pin spring must be a little on the weak side, but it will work fine with Winchester or Cheddite. The cup must be harder on the Nobel, the strike is lighter on CCI as well.
The question is, in your experience, do the Federals seem to have a softer primer cup than other brands? If so I am sure that it would carry over to the shotgun primers as well.
Thanks

The Federal pistol primers are known for being softer, can't say about shotguns.

 

[nonferrous]

Thanks for the reply, I am sure they would use the same primer cup material for Pistol and Shotgun. It's worth a try.

 

[Skip Sackett]

Why does everybody want Federal primers? Are you all using lightened springs? My revolvers are sprung so that they fire everything. I still have some of the old plated Winchester primers. I make sure all of my revolvers will fire these, since they seem to be even more stubborn than current CCI. I buy whatever primers I can find at a good price.

Dave Sinko

I've got only one revolver that NEEDS Federal primers, it is a stock M625JM. It came from the factory with such a light hammer fall that it wouldn't fire anything but Federals from the start. I even put an extended C&S firing pin in it and that didn't cure the problem. It would fire Winchester's at 90% and Wolf the same. Never even gave CCI a thought as their reputation is to be the hardest around for pistol primers.

I put extended firing pins in every frame captivated Smith's I have.

With the Mickulek I put a spent primer under the strain screw. Now it fires all primers. I still only use Winchester and Wolf. Fires 100%, now.

 

[Smokin' Iron]

At 33.48 a thousand they can keep them. Primers are starting to show up again and maybe the shortage will be over soon.

+1 For 33.48 a thousand they can eat them.

The only thing sadder in 2009 than BHO as president is some of the price gouging dealers and distributors we have seen taking advantage of the firearms public.

 

[nonferrous]

I've got only one revolver that NEEDS Federal primers, it is a stock M625JM. It came from the factory with such a light hammer fall that it wouldn't fire anything but Federals from the start. I even put an extended C&S firing pin in it and that didn't cure the problem. It would fire Winchester's at 90% and Wolf the same. Never even gave CCI a thought as their reputation is to be the hardest around for pistol primers.

I put extended firing pins in every frame captivated Smith's I have.

With the Mickulek I put a spent primer under the strain screw. Now it fires all primers. I still only use Winchester and Wolf. Fires 100%, now.

Plus 1 on the spent primer idea. I have mod 15 that someone filed too much off of the strain spring screw. I flattened out the inside of a primer cup, capped the screw with it and now it also serves as a brass shoe pushing on the spring.

 

[zeke]

Sometimes it isn't a matter of need, but a matter of want. Almost all the loads i have worked up over the years use Fed primers, and am not interested in rechecking them with other brands of primers.

Even though pistol rounds using small pistol primers show the least variations due to primers, and Winchesters small pistol primers being a good substitute.

Some people may consider buying a case (5000) of primers hoarding, others may consider it extremely practical and cost saving (shipping cost)

 

[Skip Sackett]

I just got back from Maryland and a visit with son #1 and family and reread my post above.

I need to qualify my statement about the M625JM. It would fire every primer single action but not in double action.

Those of you that know how a Smith & Wesson revolver action works will understand why. Suffice it to say this: The hammer doesn't travel as far when you use double action.

If you want to take a short test on this and how it plays into numbers across a chronograph, take the same load and shoot it both ways over one.

You will find out that some target loads will have as much as 100fps difference in velocity from one style of shooting to the other!

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I refuse to buy Federal primers because of their packaging. The box they come in is so large it takes up way too much space on my primer shelf. I can store 4X Winchester and possibly 6X CCI boxes in place of 1 Federal box. With Remington primers I can store 8X boxes in place of 1 Federal box. I just don't have the room with all the primers I keep in stock.

 

[thomashoward]

that doorbell just now was UPS delivering my Small Pistol primers from Natchez

 

[g1212969]

CCI $25.99

I purchased CCI small rifle and pistol for $25.99 at small gunshow last weekend.