FedEx “Lost” My Gun—Update 5.3.21; 7.3.21

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Update 7.3.21

I received an email this week from a police officer in the Czeck Republic. My snubnose .38 was intercepted by Customs there, addressed to an American living in the CR. He was arrested for international arms trafficking. After declaring he knew nothing about being sent the gun, he was let go while the cops investigated my situation through FedEx. They have destroyed the gun.

The two parties determined a local FEDEX employee had overlabeled my box after opening it and finding the gun inside, sending it to a friend overseas. I don’t know what happened to that employee as FEDEX won’t tell me.

“Oh what a tangled web we weave.”


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I shipped a snub nose 38 back to the manufacturer on February 18. Met all legal and FedEx requirements, including proper packaging with no external markings.

The manufacturer told me their turnaround would be 5 to 6 weeks. At five weeks I called them and found out the gun had never been delivered.

Tracking on the package showed it had been picked up from where I sent it and taken the same day to the local FX distribution center. Tracking after that was nonexistent.

I filed a claim on April 7. I heard nothing back in the next two weeks, so I made my first of over a dozen calls to FedEx. I have been told FX Security opened the package and removed the gun the day I shipped it. Since then I have been told by different FX reps from Customer Service, the customer advocacy team, and the claims department, the following:

1. The package was not properly marked on the outside.
2. I was not authorized to send the gun because I was not a “Licensed Firearm Enthusiast”.
3. The gun was a prohibited item.
4. I was not allowed to ship this firearm because I paid for the shipping instead of having the manufacturer pay for the shipping to them.
5. FEDEX security would call me about the gun within a few hours (last Wednesday). It has now been just short of a week with no call.

This morning I opened a letter from FEDEX wherein they denied my claim for insurance because I shipped a “prohibited item.”

FX refuses to give me telephone contact numbers. I have talked to 12 different FX reps and had to repeat information again and again. I estimate I have spent over five hours on the phone with FEDEX.

I have asked for the gun to be returned to me. They now claim it is lost but “security” is looking into it. I was told I should wait a month and then give a call back. I requested to be added to the Facebook FedEx complaint group 5 days ago. My request to join has not been approved so I cannot post there yet.

So now I don’t have either the gun or the value of it from FX insurance. I am pursuing this vigorously but if any of you have any helpful comments I would appreciate it.

This afternoon Claims committed to re-open the claim based on my insistence that a handgun is not a prohibited item and that I followed all FEDEX rules for shipping a firearm.

I have shipped numerous firearms back to manufacturers. This is not my first rodeo, but this is the first time a gun has been stolen and I have run into so much but covering by a company. They continually try to blame me for what they did and didn’t do.

5.3.21 I received a check today from FedEx for the insured value. Case closed—gun gone. Thank you all for the many helpful posts.
 
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I've shipped two guns back to the manufacturer and one to a FFL in another state via FedEx. All three got there with no issues.

Did you send it from a FedEx depot? The FedEx office locations and various franchises are not supposed to accept firearms for shipment.

Did you tell the clerk what was in the package? The gun I shipped to the FFL I was told to just say "gun parts" if asked.

That one I cyber stalked all the way until it was delivered to the FFL. It's easy to do on the FedEx website.

Good luck, I hope they straighten out the problem.
 
Chilling. Sorry to hear this. It's a worry to even think about letting one out of your hands and here you are experiencing this bad deal. Best wishes, keep pushing, good luck.
 
Dealing with shipping company's is difficult, frustrating and almost impossible to get a hold of a human being. I wish you luck, it
s not easy - especially since you will get no sympathy from them when they find out it's a firearm.
 
If you sent it from a “store” rather than a hub,they have you in a bind by their rules,but I would not give up pursuing it.Bad PR isn’t in their interest.
Especially in today’s climate..
 
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I'm sure I don't have to advise you to stick it out to the bitter end, but they are the responsible and liable party here. That is something I fear in the back of my mind anytime I have shipped, or am expecting a shipped firearm. All it takes is one lousy scumbag to know what's in a box he/she is handling, and you end up here.

Then you get a whole corporation seemingly cooperating in the theft, or denying liability, and you end up footing the bill. So don't dare let up on them. Pay a lawyer to write them a threatening letter, or something to get them in gear.

I wish you the very best of luck (not to mention being in the right) in your fight. I think I'll pay the extra moolah to put mine in the hands of a federally licensed business (FFL) from this point forward myself.

Keep us posted.
 
Thanks for the ideas brothers.

The FedEx website “How to Ship Firearms” clearly says to take the package to a FedEx Office location, no markings on the outside of the box, and there is nothing that says you have to declare that there is a firearm inside the box. https://www.fedex.com/en-us/shipping/how-to-ship-firearms.html

I recorded my box as “machined parts” as I was told to do by the manufacturer. I put the gun in a VHS tape sized box, securely padded and taped up. I left the repair order from the mnfctr in the larger, FX medium sized box with all shipping and recipient information, well packed so the smaller box would not move. Sent FX Express.

Interestingly, FX just updated their website 4/17/21 to be a little clearer about shipping firearms, but I still met even their changed requirements. I don’t know that taking it directly to the sorting facility would have made any difference, since that is where they actually opened the package. It was insured and required a signature for delivery. The only additional thing I could’ve done is send it some faster way at almost triple the cost.

I’ve already reported the gun stolen (by FX) to my local police. If I have nothing by next Monday I plan to take a local officer with me to visit the distribution center manager.

I’ll also check the ATF link. And yes, I’m considering bringing in an attorney, but before I go to that expense, I’m going to try a few more things personally. Right now I’m much more interested in getting the gun back than getting paid the insurance. I just don’t like the idea of allowing FEDEX to steal a gun from me.
 
Did you send it Second Day Air? That is a must for firearms. At least you insured it. That should help you.

Fed Ex lost 2 of my guns this year but they were both found within a couple of days. That's still better luck then I've had with UPS, they lost one for a month.
 
There is no requirement for Second Day shipping. At least not in the instructions at their site. Which matches information I got from an FFL who helped me with shipping guns to an out of state FFL.

Did you send it Second Day Air? That is a must for firearms. At least you insured it. That should help you.

Fed Ex lost 2 of my guns this year but they were both found within a couple of days. That's still better luck then I've had with UPS, they lost one for a month.
 
When I had to ship my P365 back I had had a Sig furnished shipping label and instructions from Sig to tell FEDEX it was a firearm. I took it to a FEDEX store and had no problem. Maybe I was lucky.
 
Here is the information from the Fedex Tariff book:

A. FedEx Express will transport and deliver firearms, antique firearms and replica firearms, all as defined by the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, as well as muzzleloaders and black powder firearms (collectively “firearms”), between areas served in the U.S., but only between:

1. Licensed importers; licensed manufacturers; licensed dealers; licensed collectors; law enforcement agencies of the U.S. or any department or agency thereof; and law enforcement agencies of any state or any department, agency or political subdivisions thereof; or

2. Where not prohibited by local, state and federal law, from individuals to licensed importers, licensed manufacturers or licensed dealers (and return of same).

B. If your shipment contains firearms, select the Direct Signature Required or Adult Signature Required Delivery Signature Option, depending on the requirements of your shipment. See the Delivery Signature Options section for details. Firearms shipments are not eligible for signature release or indirect delivery.

C. Firearms must be shipped via FedEx Priority Overnight service. FedEx Express cannot ship or deliver firearms C.O.D. Firearms shipments cannot be placed in a FedEx Drop Box. Firearms shipments are not eligible to be held at Hold at Location facilities.

D. Upon presenting the package for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to FedEx Express is required to notify FedEx Express that the package contains a firearm. The outside of the package must not be marked, labeled or otherwise identify that the package contains a firearm.

E. The shipper and recipient must be of legal age as identified by applicable law.

F. The shipper and recipient are required to comply with all applicable government regulations and laws, including those pertaining to labeling. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives can provide assistance.

G. FedEx Express will transport ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance with local, state and federal law, and the Dangerous Goods section of this Service Guide. Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as dangerous goods. You agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.
 
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I've shipped guns to Ruger, SIG Sauer (twice), and S&W (twice), always from the same Fedex Office location, always declared as a firearm, always sent via next day air, and never had a problem. However, I've always used the manufacturer-supplied shipping label, so the FFL (I assume that's what they meant by "Licensed Firearm Enthusiast") issue has never come up, because the manufacturers are FFLs. Then again, maybe I'm lucky and have a local Fedex Office that's managed by a "licensed firearms enthusiast".
 
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