Finally found a Lyman 429421 !

[Nframe357]

After much searching I finally came across a Lyman 429421 "Keith" bullet mold at the gunshow that I went to today. Like new hollowpoint mold complete with handles for $50, I couldn't say no to that. Do any of you folks use the 429421 HP mold? What do the bullets weigh out at since they're HP? I'm using old wheel weights. Has a plug been made so you can make solids as well instead of just HP's?

 

[primersp]

a group buy in cast bollit is runing for this mold ,multi cav ,hollow point ,
hope i can help
have a nice day

 

[Nframe357]

No one casts 429421's in HP form?

 

[canoe on the yukon]

After much searching I finally came across a Lyman 429421 "Keith" bullet mold at the gunshow that I went to today. Like new hollowpoint mold complete with handles for $50, I couldn't say no to that. Do any of you folks use the 429421 HP mold? What do the bullets weigh out at since they're HP? I'm using old wheel weights. Has a plug been made so you can make solids as well instead of just HP's?

About the weight....it's entirely dependent on the alloy....lead is much heavier than tin and antimony for instance.When all else is equal,the hollow point version will weigh a bit less than the solid version.

The standard 429421 mould is very easy to find through several dealers...Midsouth,Midway...etc,etc......although the hollow point version is somewhat of a rarity.

 

[S.B.]

It's the only bullet I use for .44 caliber pistols. Been using this for decades. Weight varies from mold to mold and different alloys but, will be close to the listed weight from Lyman. I've killed several white tail deer with this bullet at around 1000fps. I don't think you'll ever need the hollow point feature, I've always wanted complete pass through on game, and got it with the solid point version of this bullet?
Steve

 

[canoe on the yukon]

Since you specifically wanted a hollow point version,I'm assuming you're focusing on expansion.Getting this without leading is acheivable but may prove to be problematic.With attention paid to bore dimension,bullet alloy,pressure,velocity and so forth,one can get expansion with cast bullets but you may find that you'll have to do some horsing around with variables before finding the balance.

As a very general rule,when one pushes the velocity enough to get reliable expansion and the alloy is soft enough to go along with this,leading is the norm.

Personally (and you may not want to do this),I use jacketed bullets when expansion is what I'm after.

I've used the Lyman 429421 for many years and have only used the solid version.In reference to weight,they've dropped from the mould weighing anywhere from 238 grains to 254 grains,depending on the alloy.

 

[BruceM]

Usually when this bullet is cast from a relatively hard alloy, it either expands very little or the nose just shears off. This makes the added hassle of casting with the single cavity hollow point mold kind of an exercise in futility. Also, the lighter weight of the hollow point sort of negates the original design goal of the Keith style bullet which is maximum penetration while cutting a full caliber hole.

Bruce

 

[Nframe357]

I didn't have the HP one in mind I just happened onto it, can you get/make a plug that'll let you cast solid nosed bullets? That'd add alot of verstatility.

 

[jt1]

It's an easy job for a machinest to make another plug. However, casting with it will be more cumbersome than a standard mold. If you don't want the hollowpoint feature, why don't you sell it and buy a standard mold. You'll cast more bullets easier, and probably turn a profit. If it's in good shape, you got a real buy on that one.

John

 

[ChuckS1]

I have a 429421 that I had hollow pointed by Erik at Hollow Point Bullet Mold Service (Hollow Point Bullet Mold Service). The bullet weighs around 236 grains when cast with WW alloy.

 

[Nframe357]

I have a 429421 that I had hollow pointed by Erik at Hollow Point Bullet Mold Service (Hollow Point Bullet Mold Service). The bullet weighs around 236 grains when cast with WW alloy.

Thanks for the weight info, that's a neat website thanks for the link, I think I'll check with them and see if I can get a soild bullet insert so i can make both.