Fingerprint gun safety

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Identilock- Gun lock that is personalized with fingerprint recognition. Replaces a gun vault. Fast access, 2-4 persons recognized.

Easier than I had thought. I had imagined some major design change to the guns. All this requires is an adapter specific to each gun design.

The software came from NASA I think and can read, within 5 seconds, the fingerprint pattern. It is angle independent and can deal with even a couple of fragments of an allowed print. It stores 3-5 individuals in an encrypted form that is not the fingerprint itself, just a special code generated when the print is added to the unit. The other thing they claim is that the 6 month battery life came from government research.

The case is the same plastic now used in polymer gun bodies and isn't damaged when it is dropped during a release.

I suppose it could be used on a gun that isn't racked/cocked until needed. I think the price will be $315 with two gun adapters and a 90 day trial period.

IDENTILOCK

Scroll down on the site and click on the picture for the video.

If this has been posted on this forum already please let me know. I'm not very active on this forum but thought this would be of interest here.
 
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Thy-ar-wha? NO!

I do not like them, Sam-I- am!

I do not like green eggs and ham...

(and I never will)
 
Hmm.. "within five seconds".... forget the "21 foot rule".. you're looking at the 70 foot rule.

I recently installed finger print reading time punch units for a hospital. When an employee clocks in, they push a button, touch the reader pad with their finger, and they're in.

Only...not all the time. The little voice in the unit often says 'please try again" instead of "thank you".

And these were not cheap units..... top of the line in fact.
 
middle of the night fumbling around with a lock .. dark can't find which direction to hold the gun to put your finger in the slot .. the finger print units I'm familiar with you have to hold perfectly still for it to read and like someone else said that is about one in two or three times .. and in a SD situation your going to be nervous ..

five seconds to unlock .. enough time to get yourself killed .. can't get it unlocked ..

now where did I put that key ..

If its in the safe you don't need one .. if it is next to your bed you don't want one !!!
 
Interesting responses. I think that in a household with young children this would be preferable to any gun safe.

No information how it works with wet or dirty fingers but I rarely get up at night with wet or dirty fingers. I don't wear gloves in the house at night.

I don't plan to invest in the device but would be interested in comments from folks who do use a gun safe in the house.

I assume that everyone who commented has viewed the video, have no young children in the home, and sleep with a gun on the night table. As far as I know this device is designed for that specific situation. I don't keep a gun next to the bed and I don't carry one although I'm licensed here for concealed and open carry.

Perhaps we should hold this until the product is in general use so we can see how it performs and whether it becomes popular for specific situations.

I haven't been active on this forum for a year or so. I'm not in a situation where I would be concerned about having to respond in a split second. From what I read here most of the folks here are "split second" reactors, not descriptive of me.

My concerns are more related to the legal and ethical aspects of self defense.
 
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When I was a kid, I'm over 64, my old man, grandpa, and uncles had hand guns and rifles. They told me and my brothers if we were playing with the guns (and we did, alot) and shot our self's or each other, we deserved it. Well we are all still above ground. Never a accidental discharge. You can't fix stupid with safes and electronic safeties.
 
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I don't see how it's any improvement over a key lock or a thumb print opened safe. Key has no battery to fail, needs minimal time to open.
 
A quick-access gun safe with a Simplex lock would likely meet your needs with better reliability.

If you keep your gun in a safe, even a quick-access safe, do what you can to layer your security to give you as much warning as possible in the event of an intruder. Also don't forget to practice getting it out of the safe under time pressure.

I would not rely on any kind of biometric reader to access life-saving equipment. Too many issues with reliability and reader sensitivity, like many posting here have said.

When it comes to any kind of emergency response, keeping things simple is generally best.
 
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I'm not in a situation where I would be concerned about having to respond in a split second. From what I read here most of the folks here are "split second" reactors, not descriptive of me.
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You need to find a method that works for you and your situation. However, you don't get to set the time limits in an emergency. You may have plenty of time to respond appropriately, but I think it's more than likely that if you are forced to respond defensively, and I sincerely hope that never happens to you, me, or anyone, a "split second" may be all the time you have.

Just something to think about.
 
R-U WILLING TO TRUST YOUR LIFE ON IT, NOT ME!

3-5 Seconds or your lifetime, whichever comes first. I know I can hit 5 steel plates at 15-18 yards in under 5 seconds easily. Not to mention hands that may be covered in blood, nor more mechanical things that could fail. These brainiacs never heard of the KISS principal or Murphy's law? It was made by the Gov't? & what hasn't the Gov't had their hands in that didn't make things go from bad to worse?
 
When I applied for my concealed handgun license, multiple attempts were made in two different facilities to get an electronic set of fingerprints from me. All failed because I apparently do not have fingerprints.:eek: Or at least not legible ones. Thus there is no way in the world that I could use any stupid "smart" firearm. If such systems become mandatory on guns, I'd have to take up archery or knife-throwing, assuming that those weapons didn't require fingerprints as well.

FYI, I got my license anyway, because I live in gun-friendly Texas where fingerprinting is required for a carry license, but fingerprints are not.:cool:
 
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When I applied for my concealed handgun license, multiple attempts were made in two different facilities to get an electronic set of fingerprints from me. All failed because I apparently do not have fingerprints.:eek: Or at least not legible ones. Thus there is no way in the world that I could use any stupid "smart" firearm. If such systems become mandatory on guns, I'd have to take up archery or knife-throwing, assuming that those weapons didn't require fingerprints as well.

FYI, I got my license anyway, because I live in gun-friendly Texas where fingerprinting is required for a carry license, but fingerprints are not.:cool:
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It took them several tries to get my fingerprints when I applied for my CPL
 
ou1954 said:
Interesting responses. I think that in a household with young children this would be preferable to any gun safe.
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Not everyone has children and even with children it's easier to get the gun out before bed or keep it where they can't reach it while everyone is home.

On the other hand relying on a electric device is not a good idea. What if the batteries are dying? What if it malfunctions? What if you have gloves on or dirty hands or greasy hands. What if the device shorts out and catches fire? OK that last one is probably a none issue but it's definitely not an issue without it. Let's not forget hacking. How about recoil? Will it stand up to recoil? What if you didn't program it for your teens and while they are home by themselves someone breaks in?

And after all that.....if we just assumed, for argument sake, that none of these things are an issue. It will work perfectly each time, every time. ....YOU STILL HAVE TO WAIT for it to work.

And last but not least. ....anything with a computer can be tracked
 
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