Gun for extended camping in NW states

Your leaning toward the 10mm DW Bruin is a good choice...they have night sights don't they?

Was out west for for a month in 2013, three months in 2014 and another month in 2021. In 2013/14 I mainly carried a S&W 57 4" with 1000 fps plated bullet loads. In 2021 mainly a Colt Commander in .38 Super but didn't do as much camping as the previous two trips.

Next trip may be this fall and will probably take a Kimber Camp Guard 10mm that has night sights...with 200 grain HC bullets...1150 fps should do.

Bob
 
Your leaning toward the 10mm DW Bruin is a good choice...they have night sights don't they?

Was out west for for a month in 2013, three months in 2014 and another month in 2021. In 2013/14 I mainly carried a S&W 57 4" with 1000 fps plated bullet loads. In 2021 mainly a Colt Commander in .38 Super but didn't do as much camping as the previous two trips.

Next trip may be this fall and will probably take a Kimber Camp Guard 10mm that has night sights...with 200 grain HC bullets...1150 fps should do.

Bob

Yes, has night sites. I really like the balance and feel of it.
 
I'm not planning to venture into Washington. Also, I have a Colt Delta Elite 10mm with 8 rnd mags or I also have the DW Bruin 10mm, also 8 rnd mags.

I also should have provided more lodging information. I'll be pulling an Off-Road RV Trailer and hope to camp along lakes, streams and on Over-looking bluffs with Campground stays to empty and refill tanks every other week. I will not hike far from the base camp and no tent camping.

This is a Retirement present to me for 50+ years of working to go with the "***** kicking" present out the door by my last "WOKE" employer.

Thank you all for the great suggestions.

With those criteria in mind, and knowing you won't be doing any backpacking or tent camping, I'll change my recommendation to whichever of your guns is lightest and most comfortable to carry. Bears will not be a concern with what you have planned, so 2-legged predators are your only worry, and everything in your arsenal is proven to do well on them. Congrats on your well-earned retirement trip!
 
With those criteria in mind, and knowing you won't be doing any backpacking or tent camping, I'll change my recommendation to whichever of your guns is lightest and most comfortable to carry. Bears will not be a concern with what you have planned, so 2-legged predators are your only worry, and everything in your arsenal is proven to do well on them. Congrats on your well-earned retirement trip!

Last time I was at Yellowstone area in Wyoming and Montana afew years back, I had Model 10 2” snubby with 148gr Wadcutters. Even carried six reloads.

There’s lots of dangerous game in the area, as noted, but I was most focused on the two legged predators as well.

Beautiful country, nice folk. Spread some money around.
 
Last time I was at Yellowstone area in Wyoming and Montana afew years back, I had Model 10 2” snubby with 148gr Wadcutters. Even carried six reloads.

There’s lots of dangerous game in the area, as noted, but I was most focused on the two legged predators as well.


That's what I've been carrying later; a Model 10-5 2" snubby loaded with Federal FBI loads. Easy to shoot & hit with, and it doesn't take much more room than the Model 49 I carried for a while. Oh yeah, and a speed loader with 6 extra rounds in a leather belt box.
 
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For me it would be
870 Tactical Shotgun with Slugs/Buckshot
45-70 with Buffalo Bore Low Recoil 8k and Lever Mono Metal
44 magnum rifle with Buffalo Bore Dangerous Game
10mm S&W 2.0 PC or SA 1911 dangerous Game in both
 
I live in a town where grizzlies show up within a 20 mile radius, every year, I sometimes camp where they are far more common. Lots of people live in areas where they are common. None of the loggers I have ever know run around with 44 mags strapped on, including the timber cruisers who walk around alone estimating the value of the timber in a lease. They all go on about their day, their kids play outside in the trees and they fish along the streams often with nothing butt a pocket knife. They are all far safer than those living in suburbia.

Yet it seems some of you guys wouldn't be comfortable where my family and I live and play without packing one of these around.
A belt fed 40mm grenade launcher

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I live in a town where grizzlies show up within a 20 mile radius, every year, I sometimes camp where they are far more common. Lots of people live in areas where they are common. None of the loggers I have ever know run around with 44 mags strapped on, including the timber cruisers who walk around alone estimating the value of the timber in a lease. They all go on about their day, their kids play outside in the trees and they fish along the streams often with nothing butt a pocket knife. They are all far safer than those living in suburbia.

Yet it seems some of you guys wouldn't be comfortable where my family and I live and play without packing one of these around.
A belt fed 40mm grenade launcher

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Who makes a holster for one of those? :D

The OPs choice not to go to Washington is probably a good one. Our legislature is rapidly making it unreasonable and unaffordable to live here. I have a few years left of work then my choice of residence will be reconsidered.

I appreciate the gentleman (Do I call you Boulder? Troll? BT?) pointing out that I am NOT a lawyer and anyone taking legal advice from me should seriously reconsider their critical thinking skills! My two acquaintances, one who I worked with for many years, who have been charged under the WA law both were gunshop owners. One gave up and retired, the other is still fighting the law through the court system. Both were charged with civil violations and had their shops shut down by the AGs office. I'm not aware of any other criminal cases including any charges brought against gangbangers busted with fully automatic weapons. But that's just me.
 
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I live 40 minutes from the Ruby River Steelslaver mentioned. What I would carry would be the 1911 10 mm and pack the two 357's. I am also 70 for a few more months and my idea of hiking rarely takes me off regular trails. I routinely travel by myself and am told by those that don't that it's crazy to do so.

When in the woods I am mostly on the lookout for cow moose, cougars in the trees above me and black bear cubs. In MT and ID if you shoot into a pack of wolves you will probably get free drinks at a bar. In Washington and Oregon you will probably get official visits.

Be aware that when hiking with shorts and taller hiking socks your exposed calf puts off the same heat signature and is nearly the same size as a cottontail rabbit to a rattlesnake.

If I were planning a 2 month trip in the northwest, I would consider it a rare occurrence to see a bear or cougar. I like to cut down weight and have felt I had enough gun with a 6 shot Kahr CM 40. In any case carrying it openly doesn't have to mean highly visible, just easily accessible. With a 1911 in a shoulder holster I would wear a photographers' vest or similar. I would want duplications of meds, first aid treatment, emergency shelters and 2-4 ways of starting and fueling a fire and put them at a higher priority than any gun.
 
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I appreciate the gentleman (Do I call you Boulder? Troll? BT?) pointing out that I am NOT a lawyer and anyone taking legal advice from me should seriously reconsider their critical thinking skills! My two acquaintances, one who I worked with for many years, who have been charged under the WA law both were gunshop owners. One gave up and retired, the other is still fighting the law through the court system. Both were charged with civil violations and had their shops shut down by the AGs office. I'm not aware of any other criminal cases including any charges brought against gangbangers busted with fully automatic weapons. But that's just me.

I've been called all of the above on forums, but I answer to pretty much anything.:D

And I agree with your comments about WA. Having lived the majority of my life in CA, I still see WA as a tiny bit better...at least half the state is nice and conservative (even if it's not the half that carry the votes), and at least suppressors are still allowed here. But yeah, WA is rapidly approaching California dumbness, and OR is not far behind. It's unfortunate, given they are all such pretty states.
 
The OPs choice not to go to Washington is probably a good one. Our legislature is rapidly making it unreasonable and unaffordable to live here. I have a few years left of work then my choice of residence will be reconsidered.

I retired six years ago and If I could have seen what Washington is becoming, I would have retired in Idaho.
As I'm not interested in moving again, I'll just ride out watching my state government coddle criminals, restrict law abiding citizens' rights, raise taxes and gut parental rights.

If you do decide to relocate after retirement know that the county you reside in affects the Medicare plans you have available to you.
For instance, I live just a couple miles from a county with sparce population and no hospital. They only have one Medicare plan, and it is a poor one. Because I live in my county, I have six plans to choose fom.
 
Regarding WA law, while I am not your lawyer and cannot be, I am actually a Washington admitted lawyer with a lot of experience in the criminal justice system. My response above is sound enough for a reasonable person to consider. I have a lot of pre-ban full capacity mags for different platforms. Prosecuting the otherwise law abiding for a silly mag issue is not worth it to the average prosecutor overwhelmed by real criminals, and for most mags, proving that the citizen did not have them before the effective date of the law would be pretty unpleasant. The AGO is a political beast and many of their attorneys and practices are appallingly bad. I've dealt with them. WSP is also a political beast and their legal training is bad, so I cannot predict what they would do.

For our post retirement travels, I am sticking with platforms that have standard mags under 10 rounds and a lever gun in .357, even though I prefer other platforms. The main issue in big unpleasant critters is the same as with bad guys - awareness and avoidance are critical, and a good investment in those is worthwhile.
 
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It's unfortunate, given they are all such pretty states.

I am 57 years old. I was born in Oregon and have never lived out of state. It is breathtakingly beautiful, and I always said I would never leave. I no longer say that. The state is still beautiful. The people? Not so much.
 
S@W Stainless 44 mag, shoulder holster. Easy to get to and always works. Second choice S@W Stainless 357 mag, same as above. Just my two cents.
 
Let’s face it-you are an old man (as am I) traveling alone, which requires some extra precautions on your part compared to someone traveling with a companion(s).
You are more vulnerable to problems with human predators than any animal predators.
Pick a couple of Glock 40 calibers. Stash one of them with the barrel removed in your camper someplace. Hide barrel in another location inside, or take it with you in your backpack when hiking, which should be easy to do. You don’t want to be shot with one of your own guns if you return to your camper and someone has broken in. This gun will be your spare should you ever need it.
I recommend a Glock .40 for several reasons. The guns are relatively lightweight and not too difficult to carry and conceal. The .40 caliber gives you a little more power than 9mm against bears if you use hot all-lead hard cast semi-wadcutters such as those loaded by Underwood. But is very unlikely you will ever see a bear, period.
Since you will be basically on your own, whether in crowds, walking across parking lots, or hiking, you should have your gun on you AT ALL TIMES, even when sitting by the campfire in the evening. Good quality flashlight too. Human predators see a solitary older person as easy prey, and may observe you for a while at a distance before making their move.
The increased proliferation of drug cartels operating all over the US, even in National parks has put a different face on vacationing in remote areas. As a tourist you will not have information as to what areas to avoid and could stumble into some bad locations and situations.
I have made it a habit of stopping at sporting goods stores and ranger stations periodically when traveling out west and inquiring about places to avoid and safer ones to spend time at.
It is not my intention to scare you out of taking what is likely to be a wonderful extended vacation, but to prompt you to really be on your guard more than you may be used to.
 
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Let’s face it-you are an old man (as am I) traveling alone, which requires some extra precautions on your part compared to someone traveling with a companion(s).
You are more vulnerable to problems with human predators than any animal predators.
Pick a couple of Glock 40 calibers. Stash one of them with the barrel removed in your camper someplace. Hide barrel in another location inside, or take it with you in your backpack when hiking, which should be easy to do. You don’t want to be shot with one of your guns if you return to your camper if someone has broken in. This gun will be your spare should you ever need it.
I recommend a Glock .40 for several reasons. The guns are relatively lightweight and not too difficult to carry and conceal. The .40 caliber gives you a little more power than 9mm against bears if you use hot all-lead hard cast semi-wadcutters such as those loaded by Underwood. But is very unlikely you will ever see a bear, period.
Since you will be basically on your own, whether in crowds, walking across parking lots,’or hiking, you should have your gun on you AT ALL TIMES, even when sitting by the campfire in the evening. Good quality flashlight too. Human predators see a solitary older person as easy prey, and may observe you for a while at a distance before making their move.
The increased proliferation of drug cartels operating all over the US, even in National parks has put a different face on vacationing in remote areas. As a tourist you will not have information as to what areas to avoid and could stumble into some bad locations and situations.
I have made it a habit of stopping at sporting goods stores and ranger stations periodically when traveling out west and inquiring about places to avoid and safer ones to spend time at.
It is not my intention to scare you out of taking what is likely to be a wonderful extended vacation, but to prompt you to really be on your guard more than you may be used to.

Thank you smoothshooter,

Great advice, my mind says I'm 25 and my body says I'm 100. I do currently live and practice as you have advised. However, as you stated there are many scoundrels that do not respect others. This reminded me I need to take a pick and a shovel.
 
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