Firearms Instructor Killed in NV.

[OldDominion]

Sad sad story. Not a whole lot of info in the CBS story. While the firearm mentioned was an Uzi (full auto?) the gun pictured is a Glock. Usual high caliber of main stream reporting where firearms are concerned (sarc). Shooting Instructor Dies After Gun Range Accident « CBS Las Vegas

 

[dcxplant]

Man is that a bummer. That girl is old enough to let that scar her pretty badly; and how unfortunate for the man who could have been a husband and a father. The article is pretty thin.

Bummer all the way around for all involved.

 

[S&W ucla]

There have been several instances of accidental shootings and death where small children were allowed to fire fully automatic weapons. Doesn't seem to be a good idea. Prayers for all.

 

[jlrhiner]

Hurry and break the story. Details aren't important.

Prayers to all concerned.

 

[italiansport]

Even with adults this can be a problem and a runaway sub gun is a real threat. We were taught very specific procedures to insure this didn't happen when I was filling in at my local club. They have around 30 full auto rentals and I don't ever remember one getting out of control.
If I remember correctly an 8 year old boy was killed when an UZI got away from him a couple of years ago.
The "mainstream news media" of course will make hay with this kind of story.
Jim

 

[eyegots2no]

An Uzi is just not what you start 9 year olds at.

This kind of thing makes gun people look like clods

 

[Rustyt1953]

What a sad situation. As dcxplant pointed out, that girl will carry this forever. I feel awful.

 

[Squarebutt]

Very sad story. The instructor had a wife and family. The little girl will never forget.
Here in western MA there was an incident at a machine gun shoot where an 8 YO boy was given a mini Uzi because the larger guns were too heavy. His dad (an ER doctor) insisted that he be allowed to shoot it, and the 15 YO range officer gave in. The gun rotated upward under full auto fire, and a 9 mm. round struck him in the head with fatal results as Dad and his brother watched.

 

[OldDominion]

I remember hearing about an incident at Knob Creek involving a mini-gun. It wasn't secured and when fired by a youngster it flipped backwards and crushed the shooter. The only positive was that it had stopped firing. There is always a large crowd behind the firing line during the machine gun shoots at the Creek. When I let my grandson (12) fire my Uzi, I only loaded two rounds at a time at first until I was sure he could handle it. And then I was always inches away.

 

[Grog]

I only loaded two rounds at a time at first until I was sure he could handle it. And then I was always inches away.

The first is important.


The bold/underlined part is even more important.

 

[rwsmith]

It sounds like the instructor.....

I hate to speak badly of the guy, but it seems that he pushed his very young student too fast. A single shot .22 is probably where she should have been.

 

[mtgianni]

An Uzi is just not what you start 9 year olds at.

This kind of thing makes gun people look like clods

I absolutely agree tho my children started with handguns at age 5.

 

[italiansport]

I'll state it again as perhaps it was overlooked above. We who manage machine gun shoots are trained to position yourself to avoid a runaway sub gun like the ones above.
Jim

 

[long colt frazier]

I am not going to reply.
Mark

 

[jbull380]

I'm curious as to what constitutes an"instructor" in this vague sketchy story.

 

[LVSteve]

Just to be precise, he was shot in Arizona but died in a Las Vegas hospital.

 

[rwsmith]

I started with a pop gun....

I started with a pop gun, then got a BB gun, then a single shot .22 to a semi .22 to center fire everything. I am very cautious about semi pistols especially because they have so many configurations and manual(s?) of arms ESPECIALLY when someone else is going to be shooting them besides me.

 

[NZshooter]

15 YO range officer

That's a problem right there. 15, seriously, at a full-auto shoot??? No wonder they were held liable (IIRC).

 

[rwsmith]

In that case it was....

That's a problem right there. 15, seriously, at a full-auto shoot??? No wonder they were held liable (IIRC).

In that case it was the dad that browbeat the RO into letting the kid shoot.

 

[zzzippper]

Very sad story. The instructor had a wife and family. The little girl will never forget.
Here in western MA there was an incident at a machine gun shoot where an 8 YO boy was given a mini Uzi because the larger guns were too heavy. His dad (an ER doctor) insisted that he be allowed to shoot it, and the 15 YO range officer gave in. The gun rotated upward under full auto fire, and a 9 mm. round struck him in the head with fatal results as Dad and his brother watched.

I don't understand a 15 YO range officer. On both of my ranges anyone under 18 has to be supervised. Regardless of age, the RO the THE final authority on what is safe. If he didn't understand that then he was not qualified to be an RO. And if the father didn't understand that then HE wasn't qualified to be on the range.