HKB
US Veteran
Thousands of rounds down range and I had my first primer misfire. Winchester small pistol primer reloaded for 9mm. Tried to fire it a few times without luck.
First primer misfire
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Alk8944
US Veteran
And your point would be what?
A certain percentage of failures is considered acceptable just as with any other product. With primers my recollection it that the acceptable failure rate, assuming minimum energy is applied to the primer, is something like 1-2 per 10,000. You just found yours.
A certain percentage of failures is considered acceptable just as with any other product. With primers my recollection it that the acceptable failure rate, assuming minimum energy is applied to the primer, is something like 1-2 per 10,000. You just found yours.
Geo. T.
Member
It Happens!
It does happen but not as often as you would think. I have been shooting since 1953 and reloading thousands of rifle and pistol rounds a year and even more shotgun shells. In all of the factory including 22 rim fire and reloading I may have had 12 to 15. The failure rate went down once I started using the lee prime all so touching them was no longer an issue!
It does happen but not as often as you would think. I have been shooting since 1953 and reloading thousands of rifle and pistol rounds a year and even more shotgun shells. In all of the factory including 22 rim fire and reloading I may have had 12 to 15. The failure rate went down once I started using the lee prime all so touching them was no longer an issue!
I had a few over the years....
Back in the 80's I had a few misfires from the same box of primer, I THINK they were CCI in my model 10 which always gave a perfect strike. I also used Winchester and some Remington. A Winchester popped on me while reloading with a Lee Hand Load and a mallet. I used thousands of primers over the years and haven't had any more trouble. I think the last few years though, I've been hearing about what must be QC issues.
Back in the 80's I had a few misfires from the same box of primer, I THINK they were CCI in my model 10 which always gave a perfect strike. I also used Winchester and some Remington. A Winchester popped on me while reloading with a Lee Hand Load and a mallet. I used thousands of primers over the years and haven't had any more trouble. I think the last few years though, I've been hearing about what must be QC issues.
Of the many thousands of primers I have loaded over the years I can
only remember one that truely failed to fire. It was one of the many
thousands of Winchester shotshell primers I have loaded for Trap.
only remember one that truely failed to fire. It was one of the many
thousands of Winchester shotshell primers I have loaded for Trap.
I've been reloading for a long time and have had only one instance of failed primers not being my fault; Winchester small pistol primers fired in a striker fired 9mm. All other primers (CCI, Wolf, Remington) functioned properly in the gun and in other applications, Winchester primers worked quite well. I thoroughly cleaned/checked the firing pin channel and very lightly oiled it, and cleaned/checked all other areas of the bolt. The gun functioned properly with a couple makes of factory ammo, and all my other reloads.
My solution was to "pre-load" or "sensitize" the primers. After seating, completely to the bottom of the pocket, I would add a bit more force to the primer. After this I got 100% reliability from the Winchester primers in that particular gun...
BTW; Actually, I can't recall any "bad" primers in nearly 30 years of reloading. Ninety percent handgun ammo and 4 different rifle calibers...
My solution was to "pre-load" or "sensitize" the primers. After seating, completely to the bottom of the pocket, I would add a bit more force to the primer. After this I got 100% reliability from the Winchester primers in that particular gun...
BTW; Actually, I can't recall any "bad" primers in nearly 30 years of reloading. Ninety percent handgun ammo and 4 different rifle calibers...
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bigggbbruce
Member
If you mail them the dud primer(hazmat applies) and include a prepaid return mailer(hazmat).
They will send you a replacement primer.
They will send you a replacement primer.
Magload
US Veteran
I posted last month that I was having some duds with WSP primers. Normally I just toss them in the dud bucket at the range but brought one home and pulled the bullet and dumped the powder and removed the primer. Hmm nothing in the primer but the anvil. Didn't call Winchester it wasn't worth the effort. My lazy bone acts up quite often as I get older. Don
I bought a case of Federal small rifle match primers. First box of 100 has stains where the primer leaked in about 4 of the pockets. I had a number of misfires but cannot pin down the cause as I was using "one shot" to lube and may have primed a wet case from either the lube or not completely drying the case after sonic cleaning. If I find another tray like this I will have to return the case to Federal. I might add I am new to reloading and cannot expect perfection on my part. Still the primer solution is in the tray.
I just had one last week, in a 9mm, also a Winchester. I think only the 2nd one I have ever had in over 30 years of reloading.
Welcome to the club................
Now, aren't you glad you found it before you really needed it to go "Bang" .
Now, aren't you glad you found it before you really needed it to go "Bang" .
Clovishound
Member
I had a spate of failures in Winchester SPPs a few years ago. I quit using Winchester and the problem went away. I ran a couple hundred of them last year because it was all I could get at the time. No problems with them. I still try and avoid Winchester primers. Especially after all the problems I have had with their .22lr.
How can I say this......whoo hoo!!!!!!!
MichiganScott
Member
Work at any gun range for any length of time and you will have a fairly nice collection of factory ammo that didn't go bang when the trigger was pulled.
Years ago, touching primers with sizing lube on your fingers was supposed to render them inert. I've never tested this.
All my primer failures were my fault. Some guns have trouble setting off a primer that's not fully seated. I've also had problems in Marlin rifles with CCI primers, known to be hard. Switching to softer federal primers solved that problem.
I now ream all my primer pockets so the occasional high primer situation has been resolved.
All my primer failures were my fault. Some guns have trouble setting off a primer that's not fully seated. I've also had problems in Marlin rifles with CCI primers, known to be hard. Switching to softer federal primers solved that problem.
I now ream all my primer pockets so the occasional high primer situation has been resolved.
Usually caused by guns that give a light strike to the primer.
AveragEd
Member
Like alwslate, I used to shoot trap competitively and went through about 12,000 Remington 209 shotshell primers every year. I had one failure perhaps 15 years ago while shooting some practice at the Grand American tournament and gave the reloaded shell to a Remington rep. I received a letter from the company explaining that my primer's anvil was tilted, causing the misfire, and a coupon for 100 primers I could redeem at any gun shop.
When you consider how many primers of any type the companies that make them turn out in just one day, the percentage of failure is super slight. If only all things in life were that good!
Ed
When you consider how many primers of any type the companies that make them turn out in just one day, the percentage of failure is super slight. If only all things in life were that good!
Ed
