FIT AND FINISH OF GLOCK PISTOLS COMPARED TO H&K AND M&P

[marathonrunner]

Guys, I have always gotten good advice on this forum. I recently purchased a Olive Drab Glock 19 but before taking it home, I must have went over four others that the gun shop had and I was a bit dismayed that I could not find one that was blemish free. All four of the ones I took apart to inspect, the polymer frame had an abrasion on the top of the frame near the rail. uggg! I then looked at the Walter PPQ, the M&P 9c, and the H&K's and all of them had polymer frames that were so pristine, even the most picky like me would be satisfied. Why is it that these other companies can make a perfect finish but Glock can't. Let me ask you all this, would you still buy a Glock that had some kiss marks on the frame? I know this is not a collectors gun or a show piece but still

 

[John R]

I don't like the glocks, but they do function.
Kinda like an ugly girl, they'll do, but wouldn't you rather be seen with a pretty one.

 

[Ματθιας]

It wouldn't bother me one bit. If it was that noticeable, I'd use it as a haggling point.

Were there others to compare or was that the only one?

 

[PatriotX]

This "blemish" is only visible upon disassembly ?

 

[marathonrunner]

blemish

This "blemish" is only visible upon disassembly ?

yeah only when disassembly. but the point is, looking at four of them, all had some kind of nick in the frame. Not a big deal but then looking at other polymer MFG's, all where perfect. I have seen slow motion pictures of Glock pistols being fired and you can literally see the slide and frame wobble and wiggle, and rub against each other. It amazes me the polymer can last so long.

 

[wheelyfun66]

In my experience....
Glock=less fun to fondle/show/look at (vs most other guns)

BUT.....

more fun to shoot/abuse/shoot/abuse, etc...

 

[marathonrunner]

thanks

In my experience....
Glock=less fun to fondle/show/look at (vs most other guns)

BUT.....

more fun to shoot/abuse/shoot/abuse, etc...

So I guess the Glock is like the Chevy of guns. My car when bought new, never fussed over dings or scratches like some because I see car as only an appliance. But my guns are sacred

 

[Wyatt p. Tato]

Functionally my Glocks work. Mags eject, when you put the mag back in it sticks back into place and everything just works. The M&P I just bought is not working as well. The mag needs to be forced to lock into place, it does not drop free. These are tools I will use they will get scuffed, I want them to continue working Glock will.

 

[Arik]

Just took mine apart and didn't see any abrasions. Mine is well used and about 10 years old. I'd need to see a pic because some people find the smallest most minute imperfections.

Never really payed attention to this. I have primary HKs and Glocks. But i by all my used and most are police issue so finding some imperfections wouldn't mean much.

Define "kiss marks" small rub marks on top of the frame towards the front? Minor imperfections? Generally yes I would. I have no problem with those given the gun's history of reliability and my experience with their warranty/service. And this goes for any gun with a reliable history. ...Glock, HK, S&W.....whatever it may be

 

[ColbyBruce]

A Glock pistol is a tool. A Glock is accurate, affordable, available, concealable, reliable, replaceable, simple, and inexpensive to customize and maintain. A Glock pistol will fire under water. If Lloyd Bridges had owned a Glock back in the day, he would not have had a underwater knife fight once a week.

I have owned twelve Glocks, sold two, gave my son two, still have eight. I own them because they work, not for their looks.

 

[Arik]

A Glock pistol is a tool. A Glock is accurate, affordable, available, concealable, reliable, replaceable, simple, and inexpensive to customize and maintain. A Glock pistol will fire under water. If Lloyd Bridges had owned a Glock back in the day, he would not have had a underwater knife fight once a week.

I have owned twelve Glocks, sold two, gave my son two, still have eight. I own them because they work, not for their looks.

This ^ +1

They are simple, reliable tools.

If you just want a SD gun without any fuss a used Glock is hard to beat. I own 4. 3 cost under $350. The 4th was $450 but then Glock gave me a free upgrade to the same model but new. On Saturday I put a G22 on layaway. It's a new gen4 with night sights and 2 mags for $315. They were PD extras and when the department switched calibers all their G22 were sold. The 5 guns I had to choose from most were not even shot yet and one or two looked like they might have spent a week in a holster.

 

[marathonrunner]

right about that

Just took mine apart and didn't see any abrasions. Mine is well used and about 10 years old. I'd need to see a pic because some people find the smallest most minute imperfections.

Never really payed attention to this. I have primary HKs and Glocks. But i by all my used and most are police issue so finding some imperfections wouldn't mean much.

Define "kiss marks" small rub marks on top of the frame towards the front? Minor imperfections? Generally yes I would. I have no problem with those given the gun's history of reliability and my experience with their warranty/service. And this goes for any gun with a reliable history. ...Glock, HK, S&W.....whatever it may be

The ding is so small, you would think I was ridiculous...lol

 

[vipermd]

I just tore apart a (12) number of glocks 22,23,27 but could not find one with any marks on the frame, so I grabbed some 400 grit and made a little abrasion ( looks like a Christmas tree!! ). It is a glock 23 3rd gen, ( the only glock that feels tolerable in my hand ). I was going to slide it across a concrete floor but that will have to wait. Would I buy the one you are talking about?, NO it's OD + 9mm,maybe if it was $200 and 40/45/357 sig +NIB, but I like my Glocks, S&W, H&K in black. If the "abrasion" is not on a bearing surface, then it would not matter. If the abrasion bothers you I would not clean them like I do; Glocks ONLY--- take 1 gallon plastic container, dis-assemble glock, toss in container, cover with isopropyl alcohol, shake for 5 min, set for 30 min, shake for 5 min, rinse with alcohol, air dry. Re-lube, reassemble, load, put back into safe in a holster. Be Safe,

 

[w0lfattack]

I'm very picky about my guns and I've had many QC issues with S&W M&P. Many imperfections and ugly machine marks in the metal slide. I even had one replaced under warranty because it was so bad. Glocks on the other hand have been extremely consistent. The only issue I have ever noticed with Blocks has to do with the new finish they are using that scratches relatively easily. Glocks with the older finish are perfect machines. The issue you are describing I believe is very common with Glocks and occurs during normal firing where the recoil spring rubs against the dust cover. It could also be the very front of the slide where the recoil rod hooks into.

 

[mooosie]

I have a glock 21 because 45 acp is every where it shoots every time I pull the trigger and if it doesn't parts are everywhere I never did like polymer guns to look at I have others for that the glock takes a licken and keeps on ticken


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[railpig314]

I guess if you want a masterpiece you should get some ultra high end .45 pistol. Glocks are mass produced. Your going to find minor imperfections. I think that the Glock is the finest combat pistol in the world. It will last longer and take more punishment then any of those other brands. I have carried a Glock for 15+ Years as an LEO. Had very few problems....

 

[Texas Star]

You can look right between the slide and frame and see the recoil spring on many, too. Just not acceptable to me.

 

[SW01SS]

I think Glock is heavily overrated. All the things ColbyBruce said above about Glocks can also be said about several other firearms available today. They are amazing weapons and indeed outstanding tools, but the fanboying over Glock by some people is just a little over the top sometimes.

 

[jimmyj]

A Glock pistol is a tool. A Glock is accurate, affordable, available, concealable, reliable, replaceable, simple, and inexpensive to customize and maintain. A Glock pistol will fire under water. If Lloyd Bridges had owned a Glock back in the day, he would not have had a underwater knife fight once a week.

I have owned twelve Glocks, sold two, gave my son two, still have eight. I own them because they work, not for their looks.

WHERE ARE MY TWO (2) GLOCKS ?? (Dad)
Jimmy (the son you never knew you had)

 

[marathonrunner]

right about that

I guess if you want a masterpiece you should get some ultra high end .45 pistol. Glocks are mass produced. Your going to find minor imperfections. I think that the Glock is the finest combat pistol in the world. It will last longer and take more punishment then any of those other brands. I have carried a Glock for 15+ Years as an LEO. Had very few problems....

That is a good point. Mass produce means you won't find something that is perfect. I figure I will just buy another Glock 19 and then I can use this one as a beater gun.