Flu Vaccine? What's The Point?

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Whole family had the flu vaccine mid October. In the last week all 3 kids have had the double ended flu.:o I can see what's coming for me next.:eek:

So far this year in our family the vaccine is clipping along at a 40% save rate. Sure 'am glad we made the trip to the doctors office for it.:confused:
 
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Every time I've taken a flu shot, I've had the worse case of the flu, ever! Same with the wife too; so we now maintain a daily vitamin regimen.
Now, we rarely have the flu...so, I'm skeptical on these so-called flu shots and they're effectiveness.



They're not for me. fwiw.
 
Immune compromised folks should have it,normal healthy do not need it.3-4000 units a of Vitamin C a day will keep most immune systems working as they should.Flu vaccines have part killed and part live virus.Not uncommon for people to get sick after recieving the vaccine,also there are the occaisional "untoward effects" of the vaccines.
There is a concerted effort in this country to have everbody on something.We are so fat and happy here we have to invent maladies so the Doc's can give us something.Drug Companies are virulent in their pursuit of having something for every concievable malady you can think of.
A.M.A is currently changing the what was once "the norms" i.e. blood pressure was always 100 + age over 80 now you have high blood pressure if they record anything over 130/80,cholesterol levels were <200mg/dl you were o.k. now it's > 140mg/dl get a perscription for a drug that will kill your liver.
Really how manny limp weenies are out there ?
O.K. I am done ranting, but do your home work I would not get my healthy kids flu shots.
 
Flus mutate so fast and there are so many new strains that a typical vaccine is lucky to be 60 - 70% effective, some years it's a lot worse than that. It's better than nothing.
 
Immune compromised folks should have it,normal healthy do not need it.3-4000 units a of Vitamin C a day will keep most immune systems working as they should.Flu vaccines have part killed and part live virus.Not uncommon for people to get sick after recieving the vaccine
Docs at Kaiser told me the new vaccines are all "dead virus" with no live bugs in them like the old vaccines had.
 
Docs at Kaiser told me the new vaccines are all "dead virus" with no live bugs in them like the old vaccines had
That is probably true for this round of vaccine but always remember H1N virus is both.It depneds on what strain of virus they trying kill,some will succumb to a killed virus others not so much.
We had a saying about Kaiser in the olden days "Good People Good Medicine Good Luck" They are much better now.The best advocate for your health is your own brain.
 
I haven't had a shot this year. I really haven't thought about it. My old Mama will be 92 in January. She gets a shot every year, and she seldom gets sick. That doesn't really mean much, I guess, because she apparently has some kind of robust immune system. She hasn't lost any hearing, doesn't use glasses even for reading, and still works 20 hours a week at the public library. She takes very little medicine, but she gets that flu shot every year.

I think influenza (what most people call "the flu" ain't) just scares the hell out of the CDC and the medical community in general. Remember when Bird Flu was going to kill all of us? Then it was Swine Flu. So far, non of the dire predictions have come to fruition. The thing is, according to what I read, it is just a matter of time. The last really deadly flu epidemic in the US was the "Hong Kong" flu in 1968. It killed about 70,000 in the US, and about a million people world-wide. I don't know what those numbers would extrapolate to given 2010 population. I think medical scientists know it is coming. Given the anti-government sentiment that is so rampant today, I can see an epidemic causing two or three hundred thousand deaths in the US turning into a socio-political crisis as well as a medical one.

Say there was a vaccination, and it proved ineffective. There would be thousands who believed the government killed people on purpose. Or, say there was no vaccine. The hordes would want to know why the government didn't "do something."

Anyhow, to end this cheery post, I have long predicted that if there is major political/social upheaval in the US in the next few years, it will be caused either by something like a flu epidemic, or by acute food shortages. Have you looked at what the grain market has done over the last year or so?;)
 
That is probably true for this round of vaccine but always remember H1N virus is both.It depneds on what strain of virus they trying kill,some will succumb to a killed virus others not so much.
We had a saying about Kaiser in the olden days "Good People Good Medicine Good Luck" They are much better now.

Not really.......
 
Like Realtor Bob used to say, the Reptoids have to sneak the tracking nannites in to your system some how.
Some years back they showed a hysterical cartoon show called the "PJs" which is inner city slang for "the projects". It starred Eddie Murphy voicing the lead character. In one scene a suspicious black van pulls up to give out "free flu shots" to all the poor black people and none of the people would go near it. After a few minutes it sped away and an angry voice on the loudspeaker screamed:

"All right! We'll find another way to get your DNA!"
 
Whole family had the flu vaccine mid October. In the last week all 3 kids have had the double ended flu.:o I can see what's coming for me next.:eek:

So far this year in our family the vaccine is clipping along at a 40% save rate. Sure 'am glad we made the trip to the doctors office for it.:confused:

Probably not influenza but a virus most people generically call the flu.
 
Whole family had the flu vaccine mid October. In the last week all 3 kids have had the double ended flu.:o I can see what's coming for me next.:eek:

So far this year in our family the vaccine is clipping along at a 40% save rate. Sure 'am glad we made the trip to the doctors office for it.:confused:

Sir, FWIW, we don't get the shot and generally don't get sick beyond common colds.

For years, Mrs. Ron H. and her doctor used to go 'round and 'round about the flu shot; he wanted her to get it, and she didn't want it. Her argument was, "I never get the flu except when I get the flu shot, so I'm not getting the shot."

Eventually the doc came around to her way of thinking because of what he was seeing in his practice. His patients showed no correlation between getting the shot and getting the flu. He no longer pushes it.

Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.

Ron H.
 
I never take the flu shot. I let everyone else take it so they don't get me sick.
 
Last time I had the flu was in the Army in 1969. I blame that on overcrowded living conditions, being run ragged and not being allowed to take it easy. I have been taking Vitamin C for years, works great for me.
Regarding last year's to-do over the H1N1 strain, I know nobody who had it, nor did anyone I know mention anyone who had it. A lot of the problem today is people coming to work when they're sick because they have no sick days and can't afford to lose a day's pay and parents sending their kids to school when they're sick because school is the daycare center.
 
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