French Sniper Makes Longest Shot Record

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I own a 338 Lapua. I was at a 1000 yard range in Eastern Ohio (Thunder Valley) and another shooter had a 408 Cheytac rifle made by the Cheytac firm. I looked like a mag length Remington 40x. I use Nightforce 8-32x56 on my 308 and a NF 5.5-22x56 on my 338 Lapua, I don't know what his scope was but it was clear, powerful, and BIG! He ask if I wanted to shoot it, I said sure. The muzzle brake was quite effective, it felt like a standard 308 Win. The bullets were turned solid bronze, ammo was about $14-16 each and came 104 rounds in a small waterproof suitcase. I wasn't allowed to shoot any other target, only the 600 and 1000 yard gong, because the bullets would punch holes in 1" plates out to 12-1400 yards. As I said it was easy to shoot and very accurate, but kind of boring to shoot at a 36" gong (3.5 MOA), I hit 1 MOA gongs at 1000 with my 308 regularly and if I don't hit, I'm right beside the 1/2 MOA gong (5"). Price: three and a half years the gun, scope, and 2 cases (208 rounds) of ammo was a little over $14,500.00. Advertised effective range 1.25 Miles, the Foreign Legion WO went a mile beyond that. Good shooting!

BTW, My 338 Lapua is a Savage 110 BA, about 5 years ago it cost, including my scope, around $4000-4500 and good factory ammo is $10. I have hit cigarette packs at 500 yards, The rifle should be able to hit that at 1000, I can't manage the recoil yet (maybe next season!)

Ivan
 
Great shooting, impressive work from the WO! That looks like one heck of a round...

Can't believe the cost of the rifle, though. Something tells me there has to be a bunch of these French rifles on a good deal; barely used, dropped once... ;)
 
Warrant Officer Benjamin of 1st Regiment Chasseurs d'Afrique made a new record kill of 2.29 miles (3695 meters). Old record was 2.11 miles. French military said the shot was made with a 408 Cheytec (Whatever that is). Link was on yahoo.com.

Sorry l cant post link. Forum rules.
The Cheytac is a big middle finger to states like California who would ban .50BMG rifles.
 
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I guess that Brit and that Canadian soldiers records are still intact. I forget which of the two beat the other?
 
The minute I saw French, I thought BS. They have no record.

Everyone always rags on the French. But the French invented:
Smokeless powder
Spitzer bullets
The Minie Ball
Bayonet
Flintlock
First naval periscope
The first steel helmet
Sonar
The Helicopter
Submarine (1st non human powered one) 1863.

And that is short list on the military side.

Ken
 
When I see stories about long-distance sniper shots, real ones with human targets, I always wonder who did the measurement and how. No matter how skilled the shooter and how sophisticated his equipment, a hit on a man-sized target at 2.29 miles necessarily involves a high percentage of luck (or misfortune on the part of the target). At 2.29 miles, hitting a human target represents a required precision of about 0.5 MOA. Very few shooters can shoot that well consistently at a measured 100 yards on a calm day, let alone at 4000 yards, given imprecise distance estimates and unknown wind conditions between the shooter and the target. And don't forget the Coriolis effect.
 
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While that is an amazing shot it doesn't compare to a real sniper shot. The real deal doesn't occur on a given day at a given range under given conditions. The real deal just happens. The target presents itself, the range wind and other conditions are doped by the shooter and the spotter and quickly dealt with.

Comparing a deal like this to actual sniper combat is like comparing an actual street gun fight to pop up targets on the range.

The French have been know to fold easily, but I think this was more a leadership problem than the actual soldiers. BUT, they also fought with us for our independence, the French Foreign Legion were truly bad to thee bone.
 
I saw a story recently about a new SMG adopted by the French military. The first thought I had was whether it was equipped with an instantly deployable white flag stored in the pistol grip.
 
The French have been know to fold easily, but I think this was more a leadership problem than the actual soldiers. BUT, they also fought with us for our independence, the French Foreign Legion were truly bad to thee bone.

I don't think the French folded easily at Verdun.
The French lost 4.3 percent of their population during WW1. If you ever go to France you will find a war memorial in every village with a long list of names of the WW1 fallen.
The U.S. lost in comparison .13 percent of their population during the Great War.
In WW2, where the French folded, they lost 1.44 percent of their population. The U.S lost .32 percent of their population.
During our Civil War, the U.S. lost (on both sides) 2.5 percent of their population.
Just FYI,
Ken
 
Very few shooters can shoot that well consistently at a measured 100 yards on a calm day, let alone at 4000 yards, given imprecise distance estimates

There is no need for imprecise distance estimates, or even for *estimates* at all. The actual distance can be *measured* quite precisely.

Example - the Bushnell 202421 Elite 1-Mile Arc Laser Rangefinder is accurate out to 1,760 yards and costs about $500. Since laser rangefinders cost up to $12,000, I assume you can get pretty much as much accuracy as you can afford.

Bushnell - Elite 1 Mile ARC
 
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