French Sniper Makes Longest Shot Record

[4barrel]

Coriolis? Can't you clear that up with Wildroot?

Is that Wildroot cream oil CHARLEY that you used on your hair in the 50s? Slick & shinny? Like Clark Gable?

 

[4barrel]

I thought that was Hedy Lamarr. Joe

That's HEADLEY damm it.

 

[Fred_G]

I heard he hit the gong that raises the white flag... Joking aside, one heck of a shot!

 

[THE PILGRIM]

Betcha I could shoot that far if I had a good spotter.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

Our military has a lazes range finder/ target designation, that I am allowed to know about, that is +/- 5 meters at 4 plus miles. Who knows what I'm not allowed to know. When I shoot long range I do everything in MOA or Minute Of Angle, ad the military uses mils. There are about 3.25 MOA to the MIL, so conversions or problematic. The spin of the earth AKA, The Coriolis effect gets to be very fun at about 800 yards onward. For my 308 Win with a Palma bullet at 2900 muzzle fps, it is about one quarter MOA at 1000 yards. It is always there but the direction you are shooting verses the planet's rotation moves where you put that correction. There is also "spin drift", which has to do with the twist rate and direction of your barrel's rifling and the bullet's size and speed.

We also get to deal with air pressure, temperature, humidity and wind. Small features in the ground can cause major wind current "ripples" or sideways air flow! Then there is the standard deviation of velocity in your ammo.

If you are good at 5 or 600 yards you are probably do OK at 1000. The whole game changes around 700 to 900 yards though, it depends on B.C. and starting Velocity. I MOA at 4000 yards is a little more than 43 inches, That is twice as wide as a human body (less arms) and from the crotch to the crown of the head. Any hit would be devastating with any bullet, but the high BC low drag bullets tumble like crazy!

I find it more impressive to see civilian marksmen playing this game, than the military. Civilians pay for their own equipment and ammo and range time. We also pay for the military's!

Ivan

 

[Arik]

I always say the French invented radial tires, spinning reels, Champagne and snails.
Nobody, and I do mean nobody else could convince me to eat snails.

Love escorgot

 

[Arik]

Everyone always rags on the French. But the French invented:
Smokeless powder
Spitzer bullets
The Minie Ball
Bayonet
Flintlock
First naval periscope
The first steel helmet
Sonar
The Helicopter
Submarine (1st non human powered one) 1863.

And that is short list on the military side.

Ken

Partially our independence
Symbol of America (statue of liberty)

 

[DWalt]

"There is no need for imprecise distance estimates, or even for *estimates* at all. The actual distance can be *measured* quite precisely."

Range finding a whole different world when the target is over 2 miles away and hiding in a pile of rocks or rubble.

 

[LVSteve]

Everyone always rags on the French. But the French invented:
Smokeless powder
Spitzer bullets
The Minie Ball
Bayonet
Flintlock
First naval periscope
The first steel helmet
Sonar
The Helicopter
Submarine (1st non human powered one) 1863.

And that is short list on the military side.

Ken

Also the first true direct impingement (not Stoner system) semi automatic rifles.

 

[Cyrano]

"The bullets were turned solid bronze"; a throwback to the Balle D (the fourth experimental type being the one that was adopted for service) in 8mm Lebel. The French fought WW I with that round. They took unimaginable casualties, not just at Verdun.

No, the Balle D was not named for Capt Desalieux (sp?), who was on the selection committee.

 

[cowart]

I thought that was Hedy Lamarr.

Hedy Lamarr was Austrian, not French. Her main claim to non-showbiz fame was her invention of Spread Spectrum Technology, which is very important here, for both military and civilian communication systems.

She became the first female recipient of the BULBIE™ Gnass Spirit of Achievement Award, a prestigious lifetime accomplishment prize for inventors that is dubbed "The Oscar™ of Inventing."

Hedy Lamarr: Invention of Spread Spectrum Technology

 

[the ringo kid]

While that is an amazing shot it doesn't compare to a real sniper shot. The real deal doesn't occur on a given day at a given range under given conditions. The real deal just happens. The target presents itself, the range wind and other conditions are doped by the shooter and the spotter and quickly dealt with.

Comparing a deal like this to actual sniper combat is like comparing an actual street gun fight to pop up targets on the range.

The French have been know to fold easily, but I think this was more a leadership problem than the actual soldiers. BUT, they also fought with us for our independence, the French Foreign Legion were truly bad to thee bone.

Speaking of FFL. I met and was friends with several who entered service just after WWII. All of them were ex-German soldiers. Those guys were, bad to the bone to say the least.

 

[cmort666]

The Brits (and I think the Australians) have some 1000+ yard civilian rifle shooters. They do it with .308s too.

I vaguely recall reading about this 10+ years ago in "Accurate Rifle".

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

The Brits (and I think the Australians) have some 1000+ yard civilian rifle shooters. They do it with .308s too.


I have had "conversations" with some of them from Australia and New Zealand in the AR-10 sub forum.

 

[Hellraiser]

I think I have shot a rifle and hit a target longer than 3 miles away. Now... the target was a distant, granite-faced mountain... and I was shootin' a .50 cal. I know I hit the target.

Thank you... thank you... I am humbled by the accolades. I do accept my recognition.

 

[Hellraiser]

Warrant Officer Benjamin of 1st Regiment Chasseurs d'Afrique made a new record kill of 2.29 miles (3695 meters).

Yeah... but he was a Warrant Officer... and officer's with warrants have always skeert me.

 

[rwsmith]

Also......

While that is an amazing shot it doesn't compare to a real sniper shot. The real deal doesn't occur on a given day at a given range under given conditions. The real deal just happens. The target presents itself, the range wind and other conditions are doped by the shooter and the spotter and quickly dealt with.

Comparing a deal like this to actual sniper combat is like comparing an actual street gun fight to pop up targets on the range.

The French have been know to fold easily, but I think this was more a leadership problem than the actual soldiers. BUT, they also fought with us for our independence, the French Foreign Legion were truly bad to thee bone.

Also, if you are a sniper somebody is probably shooting at you and after you make your shot somebody will DEFINITELY be shooting at you.

Like Bruce Lee said when somebody was acting tough breaking boards, "Boards.....don't hit back".

Update: The French guy also didn't have to shoot while his friends were being steadily picked off.

 

[Salty RI]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned French Fries.

 

[jlrhiner]

Hell boys, it says right on a box of .22's they'll shoot over a mile! Fancy rifle like he had ought to be a piece of cake!!!

 

[rwsmith]

Thread drift but the FFL are worthing mentioning again.

Speaking of FFL. I met and was friends with several who entered service just after WWII. All of them were ex-German soldiers. Those guys were, bad to the bone to say the least.

I had a video detailing their signing up and training. Holy Mackerel!

Also, the FFL has a reputation for NOT folding up. Like to the last man. I think in the past they were misused and sacrificed needlessly. They were a quick strike force, but should have been backed up ASAP.

They still ask two questions of every inductee. Do you want to change your name? Do you want a new identity? Some of them had their faces fogged out. Hmmmmmmm.