From the Sig Forum....P320 fails drop testing..orders being cancelled

[hardluk1]

To date NO p320 has had an accidental discharge when dropped . Its the fear that it might by some idiot at the dallas pd but considering the issues going at with the dallas PD it could be expected .

How about the rumor mongers try to move on to something truthfull for a change .

 

[dben002]

What is true is that the manual actually does say, "If dropped, the pistol may fire. Keep the chamber empty unless actually firing."

I have the manual right in front of me and it's on-line as well.

Taurus had to recall and pay out a fortune to lawyers because their pistols discharged when dropped, but Sig skates by just putting a warning in the manual?!

Now if Sig tells us it may discharge when dropped why would anybody use that gun when so many others won't discharge?

This post folks is NOT FAKE NEWS...YOU CAN VERIFY FOR YOURSELF.......

 

[Arik]

This post folks is NOT FAKE NEWS...YOU CAN VERIFY FOR YOURSELF.......

Yes Taurus had a problem. However, so far this is speculation. Look around, hundreds of people doing a 320 drop test without issue. And the military does do drop tests

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[Muss Muggins]

This post folks is NOT FAKE NEWS...YOU CAN VERIFY FOR YOURSELF.......

It sorta is. Here's the exact quote, and a link to the manual (emphasis added by the poster) . . .

"All SIG SAUER pistols incorporate effective
mechanical safeties to ensure they only fire when
the trigger is pressed. However, precautions should
always be taken to avoid dropping a loaded firearm.
Although extremely unlikely, it is still possible for
any loaded firearm to discharge when dropped."

https://www.sigsauer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/17SIG2175_P320OperatorManual_8501909-01REV00_LR.pdf

 

[LVSteve]

It sorta is. Here's the exact quote, and a link to the manual (emphasis added by the poster) . . .

"All SIG SAUER pistols incorporate effective
mechanical safeties to ensure they only fire when
the trigger is pressed. However, precautions should
always be taken to avoid dropping a loaded firearm.
Although extremely unlikely, it is still possible for
any loaded firearm to discharge when dropped."

https://www.sigsauer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/17SIG2175_P320OperatorManual_8501909-01REV00_LR.pdf

Looks like perfect legalese for CYA purposes.

I tend to go with those that say the alleged Dallas incident (if one ever took place) was reported in a way for somebody to cover up their ND.

 

[swsig]

Can anyone post a picture of the Sig manual section where is says the 320 firearm may discharge if dropped? For any handgun to be sold new in the Commiewealth of Ma it must pass a bunch of inane tests and one of them is a drop test. However, the Sig 320 is currently on the approved Ma. roster.It seems very odd that Sig would admit there may be an issue on a potential discharge on a drop (in print nonetheless) and Ma would OK it for sale. Personally,it does not bother me to own a handgun that is not drop tested as I don't drop them. Kind of like crash testing airplanes..

Here is the SIG P320 Manual. See page 25:

https://www.sigsauer.com/wp-content...175_P320OperatorManual_8501909-01REV00_LR.pdf

It's the generic legalistic warning that can probably be found in every pistol's current owner's manual. The question is, did the DPD actually have a dropped P320 discharge? No one so far has presented definitive proof.

 

[bushmaster1313]

^^^
Looks like a proper warning/disclaimer
It would be irresponsible to guarantee that a cocked gun would not fire when dropped

 

[Muss Muggins]

Looks like perfect legalese for CYA purposes.

I tend to go with those that say the alleged Dallas incident (if one ever took place) was reported in a way for somebody to cover up their ND.

My guess is the dropper grabbed it on the way down, or fired it and dropped it right after . . .

 

[bushmaster1313]

My guess is the dropper grabbed it on the way down, or fired it and dropped it right after . . .

Add "Gun Dropper" to list just before "Gun Grabber"

 

[okiegtrider]

Like they said...

 

[Ashlander]

It sorta is. Here's the exact quote, and a link to the manual (emphasis added by the poster) . . .

"All SIG SAUER pistols incorporate effective
mechanical safeties to ensure they only fire when
the trigger is pressed. However, precautions should
always be taken to avoid dropping a loaded firearm.
Although extremely unlikely, it is still possible for
any loaded firearm to discharge when dropped."

https://www.sigsauer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/17SIG2175_P320OperatorManual_8501909-01REV00_LR.pdf

This is interesting. The language quoted by Muss Muggins above is new language. Apparently, it has recently been edited. The language used to read precisely as follows: "If dropped, the pistol may fire. Keep the chamber empty unless actually firing." Looks like Sig corporate is doing some damage control.

The new manual is identified on its last page as P/N 8501909-01 REV00. The old manual with the original quote is identified as P/N 8501300-01 REV00.

 

[Arik]

Damage control would be after the fact. This is written in a manual with each 320

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[Ashlander]

Damage control would be after the fact. This is written in a manual with each 320

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My point is that they have changed the language in the manual -- that's damage control.

 

[Rustyt1953]

This is interesting. The language quoted by Muss Muggins above is new language. Apparently, it has recently been edited. The language used to read precisely as follows: "If dropped, the pistol may fire. Keep the chamber empty unless actually firing." Looks like Sig corporate is doing some damage control.

The new manual is identified on its last page as P/N 8501909-01 REV00. The old manual with the original quote is identified as P/N 8501300-01 REV00.

 

[Rio Laxas]

Looks like DPD did recall the P320 at least temporarily, but not for an actual AD. It also looks like it will shortly be going back on the approved list.

Official Statement :SIG Sauer Reaffirms Safety of the P-320 pistol. - The Firearm BlogThe Firearm Blog

BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired - The Firearm BlogThe Firearm Blog

 

[Arik]

"An armorer at Dallas PD read an old outdated user manual which SIG has since edited. The language was confusing but caused this officer concern for the safety of the officers. DPD halted all officers from carrying the P-320 until they could contact the right person at SIG. Since the person at SIG was not in the office DPD issued the do not carry internal memo."

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[Watchdog]

Pure garbage started by a troll on the SIG Talk Forum. He has since been banned and his thread taken down.

Yep. And it was just more gun blog nonsense on the part of MagWarehouse. The Internet's crawling with gun blogs that spout fake news about this and that and the other. I'm genuinely at a loss to know why they do it. What do they have to gain?

 

[Muss Muggins]

Not sure how that changes my original post . . .

 

[Absalom]

...The Internet's crawling with gun blogs that spout fake news about this and that and the other. I'm genuinely at a loss to know why they do it. What do they have to gain?

Look at this thread and you have your answer

Blogging is all about attention, and since very little new actually happens in the field of firearms on a daily basis, you've got to come up with something if you're trying to run a "gun blog".

I gave up on gun magazines ages ago as it became clear to me that there really wasn't even enough to justify filling a monthly magazine with substantive content and they were all copying from each other or disguising advertising as glossy articles. That's why I've retreated almost completely into historical guns and discussions.

 

[mrrick]

Personally, I would NOT consider ANY firearm drop safe. It's a mechanical device made by the hands of man and Mr Murphy is always on the scene.
When handling a firearm, pay close attention to what you are doing, don't be texting, watching TV etc.

You're holding death in your hands:FOCUS!