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Apparently they discovered that it's not reliably drop safe.

Blog | GunMag Warehouse - Updated | Dallas PD Investigates Potential Concern with the Sig Sauer P320

Modern firearms are not supposed to fire when dropped. However according to a source, the Sig Sauer P320 is failing drop safety tests.



Sig Sauer has identified that there is a defect in the P320 handgun that could cause the weapon system to go off when dropped. The Sig Sauer P320 was approved for primary duty, secondary primary duty, and back-up use. The Firearms Training Center is currently working with Sig Sauer to obtain a solution for the safety issue. Until Sig Sauer is able to find a solution to the safety issue, the Sig Sauer P320 is no longer approved by the Dallas Police Department for any use. Those officers that currently have a Sig Sauer P320 as a primary duty weapon will have the following two options: Option 1 – Go to the Firearms Training Center on Monday, July 31st , during business hours, to be issued a city Sig Sauer P226 and qualify with that weapon. Option 2 – Purchase another city approved weapon and respond to the Range on Monday, July 31st , during business hours, to qualify with that weapon. Until getting another weapon and qualifying, officers need to practice increased safety with these weapon systems. The Firearms Training Center staff is working diligently with Sig Sauer to obtain a solution and will keep officers informed of the status.



Even the Sig P320 manual warns of this defect. You can see it in the digital copy here.

Drop warning



Sig P320

Earlier this year Sig Sauer was awared with the Army's MHS contract. The Modular Handgun System program was looking for a new service weapon to replace the existing Beretta M9 service weapon.

SIG SAUER, Inc. announced today that the U.S. Army has selected the SIG SAUER Model P320 to replace the M9 service pistol currently in use since the mid-1980’s. Released in 2014, the P320 is a polymer striker-fired pistol that has proven itself in both the United States and worldwide markets. The P320 is the first modular pistol with interchangeable grip modules that can also be adjusted in frame size and caliber by the operator. All pistols will be produced at the SIG SAUER facilities in New Hampshire.

The MHS Program provides for the delivery of both full size and compact P320’s, over a period of ten (10) years. All pistols will be configurable to receive suppressors and will also include both standard and extended capacity magazines.

“I am tremendously proud of the Modular Handgun System Team,” said Army Acquisition Executive, Steffanie Easter in the release. “By maximizing full and open competition across our industry partners, we truly have optimized the private sector advancements in handguns, ammunition and magazines and the end result will ensure a decidedly superior weapon system for our warfighters.”

Ron Cohen, President and CEO of SIG SAUER, said “We are both humbled and proud that the P320 was selected by the U.S. Army as its weapon of choice. Securing this contract is a testimony to SIG SAUER employees and their commitment to innovation, quality and manufacturing the most reliable firearms in the world.”



No word yet on what this means for the MHS Army contract. As soon as we learn more we will follow up.
 
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This came up on another forum, nobody provided any factual info backed by credible sources. One theory I heard was the story was fabricated by a Glock fanboy claiming to work for Dallas PD, but was traced to an ISP in Amsterdam.
I personally don't care for the 320 or Glocks, I just find it hard to believe that in all the testing the Army did, no one thought to drop one a few times to see if it would fire.
If there was an AD in Dallas it was probably someone who messed up and tried to cover for his/her mistake by blaming the gun.
 
Pure garbage started by a troll on the SIG Talk Forum. He has since been banned and his thread taken down. The original post and a video supposedly showing a P320 going off when dropped have been thoroughly discredited by SIG experts. I live near Dallas and subscribe to the Dallas Morning News, and I've seen nothing about this in any local media. However this story refuses to go away, as it is being picked up and repeated by other online sources. Here is my earlier post about this from our "Other Brands" section:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/139692056-post3.html
 
Pure garbage started by a troll on the SIG Talk Forum. He has since been banned and his thread taken down. The original post and a video supposedly showing a P320 going off when dropped have been thoroughly discredited by SIG experts. I live near Dallas and subscribe to the Dallas Morning News, and I've seen nothing about this in any local media. However this story refuses to go away, as it is being picked up and repeated by other online sources. Here is my earlier post about this from our "Other Brands" section:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/139692056-post3.html

But, but, but.....it's on the Internet, it must be true.;)
 
Love mine. Striker-fired:

From Personal Defense World

“Disassembling most striker-fired pistols requires you to press the trigger first to release the striker. In a perfect world, this is not a problem, but any trainer knows that no such world exists. The requirement has resulted in the occasional negligent discharge. The P320 has no such requirement. Lock the slide to the rear, turn the takedown lever and remove the slide. You cannot turn the takedown lever to release the slide with a magazine in the gun (empty or not), making it very difficult for a discharge to occur."
 
Yeah. I heard the Army didn't do a drop test on the P320 before they chose it as their combat pistol. Apparently, it never occurred to them. :rolleyes:

The Army selected the 320 not because the 320 is drop safe, its just that its better than the Glock because the Glock actually jumps out of the holster on its own and starts shooting randomly.
 
The Army selected the 320 not because the 320 is drop safe, its just that its better than the Glock because the Glock actually jumps out of the holster on its own and starts shooting randomly.

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What is true is that the manual actually does say, "If dropped, the pistol may fire. Keep the chamber empty unless actually firing."

I have the manual right in front of me and it's on-line as well.

Taurus had to recall and pay out a fortune to lawyers because their pistols discharged when dropped, but Sig skates by just putting a warning in the manual?!

Now if Sig tells us it may discharge when dropped why would anybody use that gun when so many others won't discharge?
 
I don't know a thing about this issue but I do know that certain Taurus models were discovered to have issues with being dropped after several years in the field. It was a Millennium model at the center of the controversy if that tells you anything. It was out before 2000 and it took at least 10 years for the problem to be discovered. I have one of those pistols and I have dropped it before with no problems. I keep it where it won't be dropped on anything hard now. It's too good of a pistol to let go.

I'm just saying that testing doesn't always reveal issues. It's possible the Sig was tested and not found to have issues until later. It happened with Taurus. Yes I know it's Taurus and not Sig but still. That pistol is a very good pistol. Start with 5000 rounds with no problems at all and accuracy that rivals the best Sig makes. And a Sig will cost about 3X as much for a similar pistol. I have a great Sig and I think the Taurus is great too in spite of the drop problems.
 
Can anyone post a picture of the Sig manual section where is says the 320 firearm may discharge if dropped? For any handgun to be sold new in the Commiewealth of Ma it must pass a bunch of inane tests and one of them is a drop test. However, the Sig 320 is currently on the approved Ma. roster.It seems very odd that Sig would admit there may be an issue on a potential discharge on a drop (in print nonetheless) and Ma would OK it for sale. Personally,it does not bother me to own a handgun that is not drop tested as I don't drop them. Kind of like crash testing airplanes..
 
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Can anyone post a picture of the Sig manual section where is says the 320 firearm may discharge if dropped? For any handgun to be sold new in the Commiewealth of Ma it must pass a bunch of inane tests and one of them is a drop test. However, the Sig 320 is currently on the approved Ma. roster.It seems very odd that Sig would admit there may be an issue on a potential discharge on a drop (in print nonetheless) and Ma would OK it for sale. Personally,it does not bother me to own a handgun that is not drop tested as I don't drop them. Kind of like crash testing airplanes..

I don't have the manual in front of me but I believe the warning is something like "ANY firearm may discharge if dropped" or similar legalese.
 
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