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[gwpercle]

A 180 grain cast lead , with a wide flat point, or something similar in a jacketed bullet , will be best on hogs.
Stay away from hollow points and bullets designed for personal protection , too lightly constructed and they open up too fast on tough hogs , you don't get any penetration into the vitals.
Heavy for caliber and of stoutly construction....hard cast WFN is ideal.
Gary

 

[amazingflapjack]

What mudddoktor said: I have, and have had boo coo 44 mag revolvers, so I figured a 44 mag lever would be a nice companion for any of my 44 mag revolvers-Oh nooooo! It was a beautiful Japanese Browning, but it had a crescent but plate, and about knocked me down-pain. But my Winchester 357 94AE is a dream boat-and could be employed by anyone with very little instruction-woman-kid-etc. and you pick up about 40% velocity in the rifle barrel. The owner of Mid Atlantic Bullets taught me all about this as he has the same rifle. He sold me some hard cast RNFP 158 grain lead bullets that I load in nickel cases (cycle through a little smoother). Great combo with a "scout mounted" red dot. 10 rounds-no mags. John Taffin said if he could only have one center fire rifle, it would be a 357 lever gun-I agree.

 

[Mikeinkaty]

My 30-06 shooting Remington 165 grain Core Lokt JSP at 2850 fps is deadly on hogs. Last year it knocked the stinky stuff out of a 350 lb boar (literally). It went thru both shoulder blades. Just to much for my shoulder now. No so, even 5 years ago.

Took my Big Boy 357 to the range Tuesday. I shot some full mag pistol loads thru it and the kick was hardly noticible. That rifle weighs in at over 8 lbs! I did determine that I will need a scope. Luckily I have a friend with several surplus Leupold's!

I could tell that it's going to be a very accurate rifle. With a scope I should get close to 2" groups at 100 yards, or better.

I'm in Oklahoma now at my country place. On the trip up here I stopped at my secret store and got some H110, two boxes of 158 grain flat nose bullets, and another 1000 primers. When I get home I'll order 100 of the 180 grain flat nose bullets from MBC. The Hodgdon loading data only takes that weight to 1350 fps. I would like to get that up to 1500 if it will be safe.

Mike. Oh, the Big Boy was funner than heck to shoot.

 

[muddocktor]

Mike, I'll be going to the range with my latest loads to try in a little while and I will be bringing the chrono with me along with my 627 Pro and the Rossi. I'll post up a thread on my results later this evening and this should give you some data and my feelings on these latest loads and this should help you out on working up some for your hog hunting loads. Just be aware that I will be using the MBC RNFC 180's in these loads instead of the ones you will be using, so adjust your starting loads accordingly as the bullet profiles will be different.

BTW, if Accurate #9 is available for you, it's a great powder for 357 and 44 Mag. And in pistols it has a lot less flash than H110. In a rifle the H110 isn't a problem as you have enough barrel to combust the powder completely, but not so much in a pistol.

 

[Mikeinkaty]

Mike, I'll be going to the range with my latest loads to try in a little while and I will be bringing the chrono with me along with my 627 Pro and the Rossi. I'll post up a thread on my results later this evening and this should give you some data and my feelings on these latest loads and this should help you out on working up some for your hog hunting loads. Just be aware that I will be using the MBC RNFC 180's in these loads instead of the ones you will be using, so adjust your starting loads accordingly as the bullet profiles will be different.

BTW, if Accurate #9 is available for you, it's a great powder for 357 and 44 Mag. And in pistols it has a lot less flash than H110. In a rifle the H110 isn't a problem as you have enough barrel to combust the powder completely, but not so much in a pistol.

I've been using Trail Boss and Titegroup for the 686. 6 grains of TB makes a fun load. That's the max the 357 brass will hold without compressing the powder. 6 grains of TG makes a very stout and accurate load with the MBC 125 grain flat nose bullet. I have taken Titegroup up to 7 grains with that bullet with no sign of over pressure using CCI 500 primers. But 7 grains was to hard for me to control. No leading with the MBC coated bullets. I shot some of those Titegroup rounds through the Henry and they produced about the same recoil as the full magnum factory loads for pistol. Titegroup is to fast for long barrels. That powder is so fast the pistol doesn't have time to kick!

Mike

 

[muddocktor]

I went to the range today, and did get some chrono work done, but the darned Caldwell chrono I have got pretty finicky and I was only able to check 3 different loads with the Rossi. I guess I will have to get myself a new and different brand as this is the second dud Caldwell chrono. The first arrived broken and this one was what they sent me as a replacement.

Anyways, here is what I got out of my Rossi, which has a 20" barrel like your Henry, Mike.

First load:
Powder - Accurate #9, 11.1 grains
Primer - CCI 550
Bullet - MBC 180 grain RNFP Striker

Average muzzle velocity - 1467 ft/sec
Standard deviation - 16.34 ft/sec
Min - 1450
Max - 1498
Energy - 840 - 897 ft-lbs

Impressions: No signs of pressure, so I can try upping the powder a bit more. Moderate recoil in the Rossi, but not bad.

Second load:
Powder - H110, 13.0 grains
Primer - CCI 550
Bullet - MBC 180 grain RNFP Striker

Average muzzle velocity - 1461 ft/sec
Standard deviation - 15.50 ft/sec
Min - 1440
Max - 1488
Energy - 829 - 875 ft-lbs

Impressions: Minimum load shown from the Hodgdon web data with a different bullet. No signs at all of pressure, so I can push it higher on powder charge closer to the max shown on the Hodgdon data of 14.0 grains. Recoil actually felt a hair lighter than the Accurate loads with essentially the same velocity.

Third Load:
Powder - Accurate #9, 13.5 grains
Primer - CCI 550
Bullet - MBC 140 grain TCFP Zinger

Average muzzle velocity - 1769.57 ft/sec
Standard deviation - 20.37 ft/sec
Min - 1741
Max - 1796
Energy - 942 - 1002 ft-lbs

Impressions: Nice little round out of the Rossi. Recoil felt a little lighter than both of the heavier bullet loads.

After running the third string over the chrono, it went goofy and started giving constant errors, so I didn't get to try them in my 627 Pro across the chrono. I did shoot them in my revolver and encountered no problems with them and had me a good old time at the range. I also shot my 629 too but didn't get a chance to see how my latest new load for it did velocity-wise either because of the goofy chrono. If there hadn't been so many people at the range today, I think I would have put a couple of those 240 grain slugs through it from my 44.

 

[DWalt]

I'm not a hog hunter any more, but when I was, I used 12 ga rifled slugs. If I were using a .357 rifle, I'd probably elect to use 158 grain FMJ bullets loaded at the top end MV.