WY or MT but I hate cold.
Future retirement location?
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Yendor357
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In the summer the humidity in Florida hits you like a solid force. You instantly start sweating. I don't get the allure of Florida. When the hurricanes hit, there's only one way out, and everybody else is on it.
A couple of weeks ago, I spent 16 days with my son in N. Las Vegas. I'm not a city person, but I could live in the Vegas area. Low humidity. Lots of sunshine. That climate just makes you feel good. Need water? They have pools. There are a couple of places out in the desert to shoot. I never bothered to check on what the gun laws are like.
We were told in elementary school that the origin of Hoosier was from the construction of the Wabash and Erie canal. One of the foreman was a dude name Van Hoosier, and Mr Van Hoosier managed to get more work out of the Indiana natives than every body else. Those workers were known as Hoosiers. Now whether there's any truth to that or not, I don't know.
We call Louisville: "Lou-ee-ville. But whatever.
A couple of weeks ago, I spent 16 days with my son in N. Las Vegas. I'm not a city person, but I could live in the Vegas area. Low humidity. Lots of sunshine. That climate just makes you feel good. Need water? They have pools. There are a couple of places out in the desert to shoot. I never bothered to check on what the gun laws are like.
We were told in elementary school that the origin of Hoosier was from the construction of the Wabash and Erie canal. One of the foreman was a dude name Van Hoosier, and Mr Van Hoosier managed to get more work out of the Indiana natives than every body else. Those workers were known as Hoosiers. Now whether there's any truth to that or not, I don't know.
We call Louisville: "Lou-ee-ville. But whatever.
Right on Q. Here's what the Erie Canal or Big Ditch as it's commonly referred to looks like in the winter. They close the gates and drain in down in several locations due to ice. This pic was taken yesterday. You can see how wide and deep it is. The Hoosiers must have been good but let's give the mule some credit too.
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DWalt
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Nearly as long was the Ohio & Erie canal that went from Cleveland to the Ohio River through the entire length of the state. Built entirely with picks and shovels, something like 52 locks. By the end of the Civil War, railroads had nearly put it out of business. Some portions and some locks still exist. When I was a kid, I ice skated on it in the winter when it froze over. The canal ran very close to our home, had a lock almost in our back yard.
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StrawHat
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The Cuyahoga National Park has a portion of the Canal from Akron to Lake Erie. The Park, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to allow the canal to implode. They are also allowing roads to rot so they can close them.
I do appreciate that the Park has preserved land that one electric company would have buried under water behind a dam. But, they are managing the land, poorly.
Kevin
I do appreciate that the Park has preserved land that one electric company would have buried under water behind a dam. But, they are managing the land, poorly.
Kevin
DWalt
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So far as I know, most of the Ohio&Erie canal has been filled in and very little of it remains as it was. When I was a kid, most of the local portion in Scioto County was intact. But today, except for a few short sections of the canal bed and at least three locks (or more accurately the ruins of three locks), it has been filled in and paved over. But at least there is a commemorative historical plaque near one of the locks (Union Mills Lock 50) which was very near my childhood home. https://sciotohistorical.org/files/fullsize/0911d0b6c4bdf0a7332d96f7c1e6e3a2.jpg
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StrawHat
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Are you referring to the Ohio Canal (Ohio River to Lake Erie) or the Erie Canal (Hudson River to Lake Erie aka Erie Barge Canal)?
Kevin
DWalt
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The Erie Canal went from Buffalo NY to the Hudson River thence to New York City. The Ohio & Erie canal went from Cleveland south to the Ohio River, thence to the Mississippi River through cities in the southern states such as Memphis and New Orleans via cargo riverboats. Both canals were very big deals for commerce at the time, and both were gigantic engineering projects. Railroads eventually killed them. When those canals were built early in the 19th Century, there were no railroads or highways. The only way tonnages of products from the Midwest could be moved to markets was via canal barges. Allegedly they could carry up to 40 tons of cargo each, drawn along the canals by horses and mules.
The Erie Canal was better known in song and story, but the Ohio & Erie Canal was equally important, if not more so. They both served the same purpose of distributing goods through most of the populated areas of the country.
The Erie Canal was better known in song and story, but the Ohio & Erie Canal was equally important, if not more so. They both served the same purpose of distributing goods through most of the populated areas of the country.
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So is Mike Tyson a Hoosier?
He did spend a few years there...
Wait and see where the dust settles,
by then, if you're still looking at least you're starting out in one of the preferred places to begin with.
either way you are GTG..
by then, if you're still looking at least you're starting out in one of the preferred places to begin with.
either way you are GTG..
Come to southcentral PA. You have the 4 seasons but the Appalachian mountains stop the lake effect snows from the Great Lakes. The gun laws are pretty fair and the state doesn't tax retirement income. There are lots of State Game Lands and State Forests for hunting. Real estate prices here are reasonable and for traveling the PA Turnpike, I-81 and I-70 are close by.
pantannojack
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North Idaho has gone seriously Californian. Much of the open to riding, hiking, hunting large sections of private forest land has been closed due to irresponsible abuse. The money laden transient ex coasters just would not respect the unwritten rules of Do Not Steal the firewood, Do Not Litter, Do Not carelessly cause wildfires. After 20 years, I also would like somewhere to go.
Very sad. My number one go-to state after retirement was Colorado. Have family there. But that state fell to kalifornia liberals in amazingly fast time.
We also were seriously considering Coeur D'Alene. But, ditto.
Maddog 521
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Another vote for Oklahoma
Bill Bates
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One of these days the wife I will likely move out of, or to a different part of Utah when we retire.
Here are some downsides to Utah.
First, Utah taxes Social Security along with all income.
What is called the Wasatch Front (Salt Lake Valley and Utah Valley) and Cache Valley often have the worst air quality in the country especially in the Winter. It isn't just a little bad; it is dangerously unhealthy.
It is growing like crazy here and a fair share of that population growth is from people moving in from California. Utah seems to be a wee bit more purple than most people realize.
Home prices are head into the stratosphere. Sadly that also means our property taxes are headed up too.
Crime along the Wasatch Front is really getting worse, a lot worse. We stay out of Salt Lake City and surrounding areas.
What really sucks is I love our mountains a deserts. Unfortunately the population growth is ruining the outdoor experience. There are places that I use to go and not see a soul that are now crowded with hiker and mountain bikers.
To us Wyoming is looking like a real alternative. I've got to have my mountains and open spaces.
Here are some downsides to Utah.
First, Utah taxes Social Security along with all income.
What is called the Wasatch Front (Salt Lake Valley and Utah Valley) and Cache Valley often have the worst air quality in the country especially in the Winter. It isn't just a little bad; it is dangerously unhealthy.
It is growing like crazy here and a fair share of that population growth is from people moving in from California. Utah seems to be a wee bit more purple than most people realize.
Home prices are head into the stratosphere. Sadly that also means our property taxes are headed up too.
Crime along the Wasatch Front is really getting worse, a lot worse. We stay out of Salt Lake City and surrounding areas.
What really sucks is I love our mountains a deserts. Unfortunately the population growth is ruining the outdoor experience. There are places that I use to go and not see a soul that are now crowded with hiker and mountain bikers.
To us Wyoming is looking like a real alternative. I've got to have my mountains and open spaces.
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Ingramite
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Everything here pokes, stings, or bites.
DWalt
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Texas is red, gun friendly, and no income tax. Lots of medical services are nearby to everywhere. Property taxes are frozen for seniors and homestead exemptions have just increased. Like many other states, housing prices are increasing in the larger cities. And we are also getting lots of Californians who want to screw things up.
I'd advise not to come to New Mexico. Even though, I love living here, the folks running the state and big cities like ABQ, and Santa Fe are whack jobs! Those people are trying get New Mexico to out California, California!
Even some of the people fleeing CA are now fleeing NM, that's how bad it is!
If you stay out of the big cities it's not too bad.
As far as guns, the governor, made "gun violence" a public health issue and is now trying to ban basically semi-automatics. With all the other whack jobs of her party and veto proof majorities, these bills have a good possibility of passing.
Even some of the people fleeing CA are now fleeing NM, that's how bad it is!
If you stay out of the big cities it's not too bad.
As far as guns, the governor, made "gun violence" a public health issue and is now trying to ban basically semi-automatics. With all the other whack jobs of her party and veto proof majorities, these bills have a good possibility of passing.
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I, too, love NM. I used to come to Santa Fe to fly fish in the Pecos River. Great fun. But I observed things changing for the worse.
Every state in the nation has a virus. It's called "Californians."
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