Given a choice, 617 or 17?

Frankie2blue

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As some here know I have posted ads looking for a really nice 617 Pre lock, and still have yet to find it.I have been enjoying the search though which is half of it for me. However I seem to keep bumping into really nice condition 17's instead. Given a choice, which would you take and why?
 
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As some here know I have posted ads looking for a really nice 617 Pre lock, and still have yet to find it.I have been enjoying the search though which is half of it for me. However I seem to keep bumping into really nice condition 17's instead. Given a choice, which would you take and why?
 
In your title you mention 681, did you mean 617?

I'd go for all the above, but that's me.

I'd go for the first .22 that was in good enough shape. Having a full lugged barrel, it will balance and shoot true. I prefer SS for field use, but blue is pretty and I wouldn't bypass one if it became available first.

681 - absolutely, get it!
 
Yikes, thanks for the heads up. It's late and I was just fondling the 681 PC.
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I am a stainless fan and the fact is that I will end up with a pristine 617 at some point soon. (Just trying to avoid getting too many as I have already gone through the 34 stage and the 51 etc., have been wanting a 617 but the 17's are nice looking.) It just hit me funny how the Model 17's keep popping up. I would have thought they would be harder to find, but I guess not.
Another thing I hear, but I don't quite believe is that the 10 shots are not as good, or timing sometimes is not right etc. A 10 shot 4" 617 has been number one on my list.
 
They are out there Frank, you will trip over it. Not to tear you up, but a buddy of mine called and said he picked up two 4" 10 shot 617's that was used for rent at a range. He told me that the finish needed some work and a good cleaning. Sit down now, We got them for $200 bucks each.
 
The ten shooters are just fine and just as accurate. Wait on the stainless gun, it'll be worth it.
 
I went with Blued, I just like the look. SS would hold up to abuse a little better( hiking, camping and hunting) but with a little effort I don't see why the blued wouldn't last a life time.
I love my 17-5, go with whats available. You can always trade
 
So far this year I've acquired two pre-lock 617's, a no-dash 6 incher and a -1 "4 gun. They weren't cheap; I paid $600 for the 4 inch gun and $550 for the 6 inch gun.

They're wonderful revolvers. I suspect that, if you keep looking, you'll find one. There were a couple of them for sale on Gunbroker within the last two weeks.

Personally, the lock means nothing to me. If I were still in the market, I wouldn't care about it one way or the other. What I really like about the pre-lock models, however, is that they are both 6-shot guns. That suits my interests perfectly. I was uninterested in the 10-shot models because, frankly, 22s are a huge pain in the butt to clean, and the thought of cleaning a 10-shot cylinder makes me gag.

That's also why I'd keep looking for that stainless model, btw. Every time I clean my 617s (usually, after each trip to the range) I wind up scrubbing vigorously with bronze wool to get the carbon fouling off the area around the forcing cone, the top strap, and the cylinder face. No way that a blued finish would stand up to the elbow grease that I find necessary to keep these guns clean. On the other hand, after cleaning, the stainless finish remains pristine.

Good luck with your search!
 
Out of curiosity, I went over to Gunbroker right after my post and did a search on "Smith & Wesson Model 617". There are four pre-locks up for sale right now, all of them 6" versions.
 
Yes , I have been following all the auctions and saw the 6" guns, but I am kind of holding out for a 4".I also have not bought anything from the auctions yet and lean to local shops or forums. There are a number of people selling stuff with Zero feedback and after a couple bad experiences on Ebay, it gets me spooked.It also seem the prices can get high on those things a lot of the time. I am definitely a Stainless guy as 95% of my guns are stainless. I am in no huge hurry because I want to find just the right one, and it needs to be ultra-clean as all of my guns are. Knowing myself as I do, I'll probably end up with the 17 also.
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I lean towards stainless vs. blue due to durability and rain/humidity in the South. I have an original Mod 17-3 6in. which I bought new in 1975, and I rarely shoot it now since I got my M617-6 6in. 10-shot in 2002. If I take my wife to the range, I won't get to shoot it because she calls it "her" gun and that's all she will shoot. I too am looking for a M617 4in. 10-shot to accompany my 6in. version and also to be able to shoot a .22 when I take my wife shooting. I would like for the 4in. to be a pre-lock simply for the looks. My 6in. IL has never malfunctioned but I just don't care for how it looks. It would be nice to have a way to hide it and not be able to tell that anything was actually done to it.
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Originally posted by stevieboy:
Every time I clean my 617s (usually, after each trip to the range) I wind up scrubbing vigorously with bronze wool to get the carbon fouling off the area around the forcing cone, the top strap, and the cylinder face. No way that a blued finish would stand up to the elbow grease that I find necessary

Have you ever tried one of the brands of lead-away cloths? Don't even get one near a blue gun, but if you get a fresh one (kind of moist instead of dried out) you'll get most of the fouling off a stainless gun faster. Some of it just melts away with very little effort at all.
 
I have used lead away cloth and it's great for cleaning cylinder faces. But, I find that bronze wool is unbeatable for those little nooks and crannies, like the area between the forcing cone and the top strap. That's particularly so on a 617, where the gap is probably 1/16th of an inch or less.

I also find that bronze wool does an absolutely SUPERB job on the cylinder interiors. My technique is to wrap a small amount around an old bore brush, just enough to increase the diameter sufficiently to create some meaningful friction when I brush out the cylinders. Not only does it work wonders but it's infinitely replaceable. I just pull off the old wool and add a little more each time it becomes dirty. My cylinders shine like mirrors after each cleaning.
 
I had a 4" 6 shot 617 and loved it, but then decided that I needed a 10 shot. I found one on an auction site with a 6" bbl and got it for $550. More than i wanted to pay but I REALLY wanted a 10 shot.
Long story short, I found the 10 shot to be 66% more fun than the 6 shot and the 6" more shootable than the 4".
IMHO get a 10shot, 6".
 
Originally posted by Frankie2blue:
(Just trying to avoid getting too many as I have already gone through the 34 stage and the 51 etc...)
What is the "34 stage and the 51"?
 
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