Glock 19 or SD9 VE?

cbr6864 said:
The glock breaks clean and crisp while the SD/SDVE is gritty and mushy with a long reset.

If someone could get a glock trigger in a S&W frame it would be a winner
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Well, I have to disagree...the trigger on my SD9VE is indeed long, and while I don't have a trigger pull gauge, I think it feels like it's between 7 and 8 pounds...but it's smooth, though, and no grit. I haven't done it yet, and still go back and forth whether I am going to or not, but the Apex spring kit gets extremely good reviews from almost everyone who has installed one. Since it already works well for me, and I don't want the trigger to be too light, I may well leave well enough alone.

I did put an extended slide lock lever in it...one that is made for a Glock. It fits and works just fine.
 
You can't adjust reset on the SDVE unless you break out a file. I like my SD but the trigger or build quality doesn't come close to glock again reflected in price. To compete you need to step up to the M&P line.
 
You can't really compare a $500 gun with a $300. The SD has some advantages over glock extended slide stop, metal sights (the front is night), front cocking serrations, index point for finger, enlarged mag release.

But glock has unlimited aftermarket options, ability to use different mags from other blocks, parts everywhere. Now people will debate build quality but there is a difference. I still say it's a little more equal to put the M&P up against the Glock.
 
"Better" is a subjective term. Does a Glock have better parts? In some cases, yes...like the slide release lever. Does a Glock work better? Not necessarily. Glocks (except for the 36) don't fit my hand well. I find the SDVE series pistols more comfortable and point more naturally. They are also very reliable, and not to mention, about $200 or more cheaper than a new Glock. I don't compete or use it as a target gun...just a home defense gun. So, for me, the SD9VE is a better gun. That's not true for everyone, so each man has to decide for himself. Best of luck to everyone with his choice! :)
 
GKC said:
"Better" is a subjective term. Does a Glock have better parts? In some cases, yes...like the slide release lever. Does a Glock work better? Not necessarily. Glocks (except for the 36) don't fit my hand well. I find the SDVE series pistols more comfortable and point more naturally. They are also very reliable, and not to mention, about $200 or more cheaper than a new Glock. I don't compete or use it as a target gun...just a home defense gun. So, for me, the SD9VE is a better gun. That's not true for everyone, so each man has to decide for himself. Best of luck to everyone with his choice! :)
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Amen...

Which works "best" is subjective to some degree. There is no imperial data one way or another.

Glock makes a good product, but it's a Honda Civic. and SW makes a good product.

The question I think, which has been summed up nicely here is which works BEST for you!

I own a Glock, and I regret selling my SD9VE.


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I a Glock 23 & a Glock 21 but gave them to my son before WI had a concealed carry law. When the law was passed & I got my carry license I bought a Sigma 40VE. Nice pistol well worth the price. I sold that at the price I paid for it to my buddy who begged me for it when I got my M&P40 FS & later my M&P40C. All of the above were good, reliable guns but I settled on M&P. Need I say more?
 
I have several SDs and many Glocks (15). I'm obviously a big fan of the "original". It's got a helluva track record. That said, the Glock-clone SD9/40 VE is a damn good pistol. For the money, the SD is a great buy...you really cannot beat it. S&W has come a long way since the original Sigma. The Glock does have a bit better build quality overall, and yes, perhaps a couple of marginally better parts, and more after-market options...but you do pay a whole lot more for these differences. How significant are the differences? Only you can decide. Both are very good guns, reliable and accurate. The only one who can assess the value to you is you. Try 'em both and make your call. JMO.
 
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Block or Stigma, not much of a choice.

There's Ruger SR, Bersa, Taurus (i know).

Hard to beat SW or Ruger for service. Murican.
 
My sigma sd40ve is on its way back to s&w. Rounds keep getting jammed while chambering. I have tried federal hst, win white box, federal fmj, Magtech, and cast bullet reloads. They all do it to some extent, though the federal is the worst. Probably one out every 10 rounds. Not a huge deal at the range, but obviously not great for SD. I am guessing there is something with the feed rail causing the problem, though I didn't want to take a dremel to it. So back to s&w it goes.

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I have owned both. If you are on a budget get the SD but if not the G19 has so much more accessories such as 33 round Mags cheaper sight upgrades and a lot easier to find find parts for.
 
The way I see it, and most should agree:


If you can't afford a Glock, the SD (or Sigma even) is not a bad choice and is a good firearm for the money and can hold its own.

If you can afford a Glock, you can buy the Glock knowing you got what you really wanted (from what it sounds like), however if you know someone who has either one and allows you to fire it....that's a good way to tell if you wanna drop the extra $250 or so.

You can buy a Sigma nowadays for $250, that's what I have right now. I have fired many Glock models and although I prefer Glock I'm not about to sell my Sigma to spend more on name.

The wonderful part of about guns is that if you don't like the gun, someone will easily buy it off you either way. You can't keep a used Glock in stock nor can you keep a used Sigma/SD in stock for too long before someone wises up to get it over many of the other firearms in that range.

Obviously S&W liked the Glock enough to copy it in the first place.


Above all, I personally recommend sticking with 9mm.
 
I've owned several Glock 19's and 17's..at this time I own a Glock 23,21& a 36....I also own a S&W SD9VE...I like the feel of the pistol...I don't mind the trigger...The trigger is fine for my use I actually carried the SD9VE all day today...loaded with Remington 115gr +P seems like my gun likes this ammo ..feeds 100% and accuracy is more than good for this guns intended use....

My SD9VE is boringly reliable with 147 gr subsonic to 115gr +p ammo

Theses are great pistols for the price...
 
I bought the SD9VE.

It's a perfect fit for my hand and price had little to do with it.
 
I look at it from this point of view...

Both Glock 19 and the S&W SD9 VE have their pros and cons...

I bought my SD9 because I wanted a good self defense firearm at a good price. I looked at the G19 as well as the SD9 VE. I chose the SD because, for my needs, it was the better decision... I dont do any competition shooting, so getting a higher priced pro grade gun would not have been worth the extra money.

Glock may have tons of aftermarket parts that the S&W doesnt have. Personally, Im fine with that. I didnt buy my S&W to fiddle with it. I bought it as a self defense weapon.

As far as the heavy trigger goes. I dont mind a bit of a heavier trigger pull. In this case, it gives me a bit of a piece of mind that the gun is less likely to go off accidentally due to a light trigger. A heavy trigger means a more conscious decision has to be made.
 
superbeast1098 said:
As far as the heavy trigger goes. I dont mind a bit of a heavier trigger pull. In this case, it gives me a bit of a piece of mind that the gun is less likely to go off accidentally due to a light trigger. A heavy trigger means a more conscious decision has to be made.
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-And that is one and only reason I will not change out the springs in mine. I have no issues at all with the trigger pull. And the slightly heavier pull weight is also an insurance policy against any AD...

L8R,
Matt
 
I really like the trigger on the SD, I've said before, I don't need a 3lb pull to shoot a good target. I have nothing against glocks or any others, just like the SD. It is what it is, and works like a well oiled Timex!
 
I agree that it is completely up to the shooter. I own several S&W and Glock pistols. Both brands are of great quality. Yes, there is a price difference.

When I purchased my first pistol, I went with the Sigma SW9VE 9mm based on the price. The Sigma was $279 and the Glock was $500. I always wanted a Glock but at the time, I couldn't justify the price difference and being a novice to guns, I purchased based on the price since Smith & Wesson has a good reputation just like Glock.

One thing, like I mentioned, I always wanted a Glock and a year later, I purchased my first Glock. So there you go, if I had not based it on price, I would have purchased the Glock first. I now own several of both brands in different calibers and like them both equally. The only thing in the Smith & Wesson is that it does not have the finger grooves like the Glock. I put a Hogue sleeve on it and if feels right. I actually prefer the sleeve because it will not slip out of my hand.

It is ultimately up to you. If they both cost the same, which one would you buy? IMO, that is the one you should go with.
 
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