Glock ban moving forward in CA

[robertrwalsh]

AB1127 would, if passed in its current form, BAN the sale of Glock pistols in the formerly great state of California. The bill, which does not mention Glock by name, would declare that any semi-automatic pistol designed like a Glock and that can be easily converted to fire fully automatically would not longer be legal for sale in CA. The bill passed overwhelmingly in the Assembly. CA has a Democrat super-majority in both houses of the legislature and all constitutional officers are also Democrat. Governor Gavin Newsom personally hates guns and gun owners and will certainly sign the bill into law if it gets to his desk.

 

[Martyk]

The late, great Archie Bunker once said: "California, the land of fruits and nuts"

 

[raljr1]

Will police departments be exempt.?

 

[65-2x2]

Is it easy to covert off the shelf Glocks to full auto? I have never owned one.

 

[robertrwalsh]

Due to the Glock design a device often called a "Glock Switch" can be placed on the gun in place of the rear plate on the slide that allows it to fire fully auto with a high degree of reliability. The change can be made with very basic hand tools and pretty much zero mechanical skill. This offends some people. Of course pretty much ANY semi-automatic weapon can be made to operate full auto with a file and with only a moderate level of mechanical skill, though not as reliably as the Glock.

 

[stansdds]

Will police departments be exempt.?

Government agencies are always exempted from such laws.

 

[WR Moore]

Back in the day, several European countries flirted with the idea of full auto handguns for special purposes. Apparently Glock wanted to get in on it, their 33 round mag was part of that. Beretta actually produced their version-complete with folding fore end grip. Reality intruded at some point and most disappeared.

One wonders what the phrase "easily converted" might be construed as meaning?

 

[65-2x2]

I struggle to find any value in a full auto pistol. I would really like to see someone's target shooting in that mode.

 

[TJm15.38]

I have read that people are using 3D printers to manufacture a "Glock Switch." If you get caught with one, it will be big legal trouble, even here in gun-friendly Mississippi.

 

[robertrwalsh]

I agree that fully automatic handguns are not much good for precision shooting. That being said many of the troglodytes who want to use such things are not into precision shooting, they are interested in spraying as much lead as they possibly can and hitting as many people as they possibly can in a short period of time. That makes things easier for the gun ban whackos.

 

[Dave Haynes]

The list of approved pistols for sale in Calif is almost all Glock because Glock is willing to pay the freight because of LE business. If they screw Glock there will be almost nothing approved for sale. The problem is the folks who openly play with those toys and even record dozens of wannabe gangsters and show them on You tube without any action by LE. The state essentially doesn't do anything that would disturb the situation they've created. They allow small fires to mature two or three days into disasters because they want everyone in ghettos walking to work. Cal Fire then shows up on TV telling us what a great job they are doing. It's all by design..crime and wildfires are essential to their plan..

 

[Lt.Donn]

I struggle to find any value in a full auto pistol. I would really like to see someone's target shooting in that mode.

No intrinsic vale whatsoever, but "bangers" love to spray and pray

 

[jbltwin1]

Full auto .45! Try to hold on to THAT puppy!

 

[Tom S.]

Full auto .45! Try to hold on to THAT puppy!

Two things. I have shot a full auto Glock. A. It wasn't very reliable, stopping numerous times during most 30 round mags and B. It wasn't that hard to hold onto once you knew what to expect. And yes, the one I shot was legal - it belonged to a Class 3 dealer and manufacturer.

 

[65-2x2]

I have shot a few machine guns that belonged to other people and it was a lot of fun as long as they were buying the ammo. (and they were) The one that I liked the most shot .22 LR.

 

[Wyo]

I would hope Glock would have the decency to stop selling guns and parts to anyone, including police, in California much like Barrett did. I expect, though, such will not be the case.

 

[rwsmith]

I wonder if Glock could fix that anomaly? Can other semi pistols be made full auto with a homemade device? I suppose you could make about any semi auto firearm full auto if you try hard enough.

 

[Phenix]

Due to the Glock design a device often called a "Glock Switch" can be placed on the gun in place of the rear plate on the slide that allows it to fire fully auto with a high degree of reliability. The change can be made with very basic hand tools and pretty much zero mechanical skill. This offends some people. Of course pretty much ANY semi-automatic weapon can be made to operate full auto with a file and with only a moderate level of mechanical skill, though not as reliably as the Glock.

Accuracy of a full-auto pistol in the hands of a gangbanger would be pretty much non-existent. Someone coming after me with a shotgun or lever-action .30/30 rifle would scare me more than some idiot with a full-auto pistol since I could reasonably expect that all or most of his shots would be misses.

 

[ladder13]

Lots, lots, of live tv showing miscreants with drum or 2ft long mags hanging on the bottom of their Glocks. The new status symbol like Air Jordan’s and pants around the ankle.

 

[TaxPhd]

Due to the Glock design a device often called a "Glock Switch" can be placed on the gun in place of the rear plate on the slide that allows it to fire fully auto with a high degree of reliability. The change can be made with very basic hand tools and pretty much zero mechanical skill. This offends some people. Of course pretty much ANY semi-automatic weapon can be made to operate full auto with a file and with only a moderate level of mechanical skill, though not as reliably as the Glock.

Tell us all about how one would convert, say, an AR, a 1911, or a 10/22 with a file.

Or, just stop with the gunshop commando nonsense.