Glock vs. M&P-yup. I'm askin' it.

[redbrd]

I am I long time glock guy. I own and have owned several in 9mm, .40, and .45 caliber. I was issued a G17 and G19 when I worked for my uncle out of the country. Of all the weapons I have handeled over the years a glock is the most reliable I have used.
that said I have recently picked up a .45c m&p for carry. I like the g30 but the m&p is has a better feel to it. It isn't slimmer but it feels like it is. I hated the trigger but dropped an apex aluminum trigger which is better than the glock trigger imo. Having used and trained on glocks for so long I have alway performed better with glocks than other types of pistols. I don't really notice an degradation in my performance with m&p but I have not spent a lot of time shooting it yet.
All said I will be keeping my glocks but will carry my m&p. I see another m&p in my future too.

 

[ESW]

My M&P 40 fits my hand like a glove. Light weight, accurate, looks beautiful to me too. Never had a FTF, FTE. It always hits the target. Lovely utility player. I'd carry this pistol over any other I've ever owned.

 

[teflonmyk]

AMEN!

My primary shooter for the longest time was a Glock 17 and after more than two decades, if I'm going deep into the woods alone, that stalwart companion's coming along--I trust it intrinsically. I have a very sweet Glock 27 that came with with a nickel boron slide and barrel at no extra cost that I've come to like--it's very low maintainance and quite accurate for its size.

All that said, my primary shooter/carry pistol around town is now an M&P 40c. Maybe over time, it will prove as reliable as the Glocks--so far, so good. I think I got a slightly better than normal trigger out of the box, but my Glock's still have smoother triggers overall.

Personally, I can work around the difference in triggers and as said, I prefer the M&P and that's because it just feels a bit better (ergonomically) in my hands than do the Glocks. I can carry it and draw an M&P easier--it feels more like a natural extension of my body than do Glocks. The Glocks feel a bit cold and blocky in comparison, even though I'm used to them.

As I shoot the M&P more and more, the trigger is breaking in a bit but I've never been much for 'trigger jobs'. I knew it wasn't a Sig or HK going in and didn't want to make it into such.

I feel that in a way, a gun to an experienced shooter is like a musicial instrument to a practiced musician--if you learn to work well with what's in your hands with good fundamental skills, you can get good results with a variety of equipment. Some of the greatest musicians, as well as photographers (Ansel Adams for one) spoke very strongly on how you don't need expensive equipment to get wonderful results--it's how you sense things--how you work with what's in your hands. I feel that way about guns.

From when I was old enough to hold a rifle--a Daisy BB gun that I was able to shoot down clothes lines or shooting from the hip, take out frogs with (bad, I know)--I have felt that a lot of times, it's more the user than the equipment itself that determines results. I'm glad I came up poor and had some real low budget guns, as it taught me to work with and appreciate what I had, then as well as now.

Great reply! I registered because I got chills reading your post. I was thinking the exact same thing! It's all about how you "work with what is in your hands." I am a 90s era Vet (Log Dog!). I became proficient with what was issued to me- whether it was the M16A1, A2, Beretta, etc.... Regardless of which one I liked better.

Please don't take this the wrong way. It's your money, and you now have a choice, but do not rely on others' opinions. You have to decide for yourself! I don't know about everyone else, but price point DOES play a role for me!

BTW, I own a Glock 22 (bought in 1993) and a Glock 23 (2015). I have owned several lesser quality pistols over this time (Hi Points, etc.) I looked long and hard at the M&P line, and I may try one in the near future after I upgrade my aging Mossberg 500 12 gauge combo (circa 1993) and SKS Russian paratrooper assault rifle (maybe on this one purchased in 1994).

 

[teflonmyk]

I got carried away, and neglected to make my point. I choose Glock because now it feels like "issue" to me! LOL

 

[Lee's Landing Billy]

Wellll, I shot competitively for many years and still shoot every day. I fought the Glock platform for years. Derned thing pointed the front sight HIGH when pushed on the clock. Too many rounds fired with 1911 with flat mainspring housings and crisp triggers. Then I was given an article written by Chuck Taylor. He hated the Glock and set about proving what a contraption it was. He purchased one off the shelf and started shooting it. At round count 300,000 he had had 0 malfunctions and had replaced the front sight several times from wearing it off smooth from drawing it. So, I decided to try one. I bought a G17. Trigger was awful, spongy, squishy, went spoing, front sight pointing into the sky. I gave up! Many years went by, Taylor's round count kept getting higher, I tried again. This time with an Advantage Arms 22 conversion. 5,000+ rounds later I had her whipped. Then I started whitteling on it. Cut enough off the backstrap to bring that front sight down. As Doc Holliday said...Looks Like We Win....Put up all steel, ivory and stag gripped GOOD guns and replaced them with 8 Glocks. All have been "mortified" to fit my 1911 hand. When I heard that Gunsite Staff had been to S&W to confer on their new plastic gun my attention was at condition Orange. I got hold of the first M&P in this part of the world and BEHOLD....it fit!! It felt perfect, right circumference, right angle, just RIGHT. I got one. It ran great, shot where it looked and felt good. Later got the first Shield available here....see above. Anyway, they are both gone now. Not because they didn't do just fine but I was to invested in the Glock platform. We shoot everyday here, weather permitting and while my round count is not CLOSE to Chuck's, we have had no firearms related issues , none. My only negative remark about M&P is , they are terribly busy inside that lower. If you skeeered, say you skeeeered. I'm skeeered .

 

[ATF]

To me glocks are like putting a perfect carry trigger on a brick. The triggers great but who cares if it's awkward to hold. The M&P is the exact opposite great ergonomics not so great trigger. If someone could cram a glock trigger in an M&P they would have a winner

They have it's called APEX.

M&P + APEX = Winner.

 

[ClayCow]

They have it's called APEX.

M&P + APEX = Winner.

Makes the shield quite a bit ezpensive with a new apex trigger

 

[Blueduck]

I'm just really simple on this.

The Glock has the better trigger from the factory. If you want the trigger tuned the M&P can be made better, but the same time and effort will still produce an even better than that trigger on the Glock- Glock wins.

The M&P has better ergonomics to most people. To me the grip is better, no finger grooves that only fit a certain percentage of the population, and the aforementioned Glock trigger guard can produce "Glock Knuckle" (it certainly does on me till the dremel comes out). -M&P Wins

Parts and support. To me sights are much easier to change on the Glocks, and Glock and a dozen suppliers will sell you any part made for the Glock, and it does not take much schmoozing to even get approved to become a "Certified Glock Armorer". S/W is more picky on this and parts are little more difficult to come by.- If you do your own work Glock wins, if not, does not matter.

Two awesome pistols so similar it's hard to pick a loser in my book. You can go through list of minor things 98 pages long if you like, still I bet it ends up virtually a tie.

 

[dwcopple]

Ginger or Mary Ann?

Ferrari vs Lambo?

I love my G17 and Glock makes the BEST 9mm in my opinion. I am picking up my M&P45 FS today and am really hoping I didn't make a mistake getting this over a G21.

 

[The Viking]

Depends on the caliber. In 9mm I will take the Gen 4 Glock 19. In 45 the M&P feels much better in the hand. Do not have those Glock 45 beefy grips I cannot get my hands around.
Both are really good guns. Glock probably is the most proven; but the M&P is coming around slowly.

 

[The Viking]

The Glock tends to bang the middle knuckle of my middle finger when I hold it and fire it ( the finger under my trigger finger). The S&W does not. Just that simple.

Glock knuckle! Quite common. I use the Dremel tool on all of my Glocks reshape the trigger guard by eliminating that hump. Don't know why Glock does not get rid of it.

 

[The Viking]

I would suggest that, if you are not completely satisfied with the Glock or the M&P, then you should look at the Walther P 99, PPQ and the HK VP 9.
I own M&P's, Glocks and the two aforementioned brands. I carry Glocks because that is what my state and city police carry and I have shot them quite a bit. I have also shot the M&P quite a bit also. I could be happy with either pistols. The triggers do not vary that much to me.

 

[Lee's Landing Billy]

Just an update to a previous post. Yesterday one of our guys showed up with a brand new Glock Gen 4 model 23. We cleaned it, oiled it , loaded 3 mags to max with 180 grain FMJ. Commenced shooting...second mag, fifth shot, failure to feed. FMJ! First firearm related malfunction of a Glock on my range with thousands of rounds fired in hundreds of guns. Glock perfection, keep improving it til it stops working.

 

[OpsMgr]

Man, the Fan Boyz are out in this old and long thread.

Glock knuckle, BTF, complex to field strip, made in the US of A, stovepipes, etc.

What a laugh...

 

[PeeWeeHerman]

I just bought my first pistol (M&P 45 FS) after going to the range with friends multiple times and doing months of research. Obviously I am biased but I love my new pistol! I took a my first concealed carry course and had a very small grouping which I found impressive coming from a novice at best even with new shooting techniques. Although the Glock and XD were appealing to me (I have fired an XD .40) I found the M&P to be the best choice considering everything I learned. I like the ergonomics, ease of use and disassembly, and most of all the accurate groupings I get at the range. I would recommend M&P to any first time pistol buyer.

 

[RobzGuns]

Man, the Fan Boyz are out in this old and long thread.

Glock knuckle, BTF, complex to field strip, made in the US of A, stovepipes, etc.
What a laugh...

Spoken like a true Fanboi of this forum's brand.

 

[SickMAK90]

I'm a long time Glock guy and recently I've made the switch to m&p. I never disliked the m&p but I was so heavily invested in glock mags, holsters, ect that I was slow to switch.

I have shot the Glocks for years and feel like I am ok with them. However when I went to the range and shot a stage with both guns my accuracy was superior with the m&p. I fee some of this is because the m&p with small back strap fits my hand like a glove. Fwiw the m&p I was running was my fathers which has the "bad trigger" and the "inaccurate" barrel.

Now I've replaced my g17 with a m&p 9 FS and am about to replace my g19 with a m&p9c.

 

[ChicagoZman]

I've not made the switch and won't as the Glock points more naturally for me and I prefer its stock trigger over any M&P trigger other than an Apex.

That said, I really like the way the M&P feels in my hand and love the controls and would never blame anyone for choosing the M&P over the Glock. I just don't shoot it as well and that is what matters to me.

 

[BigCityChief]

Glock vs. M&P-yup. I'm askin' it.

I enjoy the M&P pistols, but generally find their Glock counterparts more reliable.

 

[kilroy2721]

I started with Glocks and carried them for many years, and in my opinion there is NOTHING more reliable than a Glock...however when the M&P came out, I switched over to them due the fact that they just fit in my hand better than the Glock. My M&P's have always been 100% reliable and never failed, and I shoot my M&P's in competition and seldom shoot my Glocks anymore...but for some reason even though I have tried to go to the M&P for CCW I keep going back to Glock. Not sure why...might be in my mind.