Good Times seem to be over for the firearms industry for now

Here in California we will continue to hoard ammo. But with good reason...after Dec 31st we cannot buy ammo over the internet and will be forced to pay top dollar for it in stores. This of course is after we buy our ammo permit and get fingerprinted for it.
 
Plenty of guns

Gun sales down here in Central Florida aren't hurting any. Now let me say $450 or less. Just go into Rural King any day of the week and there is a minimum of 2 people waiting on background checks to go through.

Each time in the store for something ( often ) of course I stop by that department. Might as well buy a few hundred rds of .22 while I'm there. There's usually one or two people there for pickup as well as the ones who have a CC and are waiting on the BG check. They are now starting to sell some of the upper levels in Colt, Smith, Glocks, Berretta's, Sig, etc.

Now your older LGS type shops that's another story. The established ones over the years are okay. I have seen several though that just can't meet the overhead selling today's guns.

Dan :D
 
remember the CB radio craze of the 70's?. Just about everyone I knew had one, then there were the goodies like the power mikes, special antennas and such. Few years later when the market was saturated you couldn't give them away and the craze eventually dies out and the whole thing went away. The gun manfacturers had 8 years of runaway sales and now that a new administration is in power and you know who didn't get elected they are experiencing a shortage of buyers. This downturn just might be the start of the trend of the gun makers to start putting back in the quality that made them famous. You cannot make firearms like peanuts and expect the quality to be there. one company borught out a 44 special revolver and as soon as they hit the streets complaints started coming in. Notable about the mis machined front sight dovetails. For too long the buyer has been the QC checker when he or she buys a firearm. Oh yeah that's not right so send it back to get fixed. Something that shouldn't have happen in the first place. Do I really think this is actually going to happen?. Nope, and as far as the availability of 22rf ammo, my wally world has had little to no 22rf since this whole shortage has begun. Frank
 
Here in California we will continue to hoard ammo. But with good reason...after Dec 31st we cannot buy ammo over the internet and will be forced to pay top dollar for it in stores. This of course is after we buy our ammo permit and get fingerprinted for it.

Glad this is not happening everywhere! I feel sorry for you folks going through this. I wish there was an unlike button for this!
 
EVERY INDUSTRY IN THE WORLD has their good times and their bad times - just like the Stock Market does.

If Firearms Company CEO's are smart, they plan ahead for these slow times and squirrel away some "nuts" for the rainy days. That's called "good business sense" and THAT IS WHY some Company's have longevity and some fall by the wayside. Only the strong (and smart) survive.
 
Well as a side addendum, in NC they are revisiting the idea of allowing anyone over the age of 18, the ability to purchase a pistol without purchase permit (currently a $5 deal through the sheriff's office, in leiu of having a concealed carry permit). Then they also want to allow anyone in the state over that 18 threshold to be allowed to open or conceal carry without a permit. I personally am troubled by this but bring it up because it is the complete opposite end of the spectrum from the issues of California but it also makes me wonder how that will impact firearm sales with our state if there are no permits required for pistols. What do you guys think?

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After the 2008 election, I started buying reloading componants on a regular basis. At this point at age 66, I really won't ever need to buy any more in my lifetime.
 
Here in California we will continue to hoard ammo. But with good reason...after Dec 31st we cannot buy ammo over the internet and will be forced to pay top dollar for it in stores. This of course is after we buy our ammo permit and get fingerprinted for it.
Dave, don't move back to NY, they're nipping at CA's heels. :rolleyes:
 
Well as a side addendum, in NC they are revisiting the idea of allowing anyone over the age of 18, the ability to purchase a pistol without purchase permit (currently a $5 deal through the sheriff's office, in leiu of having a concealed carry permit). Then they also want to allow anyone in the state over that 18 threshold to be allowed to open or conceal carry without a permit. I personally am troubled by this but bring it up because it is the complete opposite end of the spectrum from the issues of California but it also makes me wonder how that will impact firearm sales with our state if there are no permits required for pistols. What do you guys think?

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In it's current language it will not pass. (I don't think)
 
In it's current language it will not pass. (I don't think)
I agree. As this is the second time this has been proposed based upon what I know.

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suggestion: bottom of golf bag...returning from golf trip....:D or does kalifornia have border control with ammo sniffing dogs? Never heard of such......wow.......

Yeah but, you HAVE heard of Eliot Ness's Agency before..............................................................:D
 
remember the CB radio craze of the 70's?. Just about everyone I knew had one, then there were the goodies like the power mikes, special antennas and such. Few years later when the market was saturated you couldn't give them away and the craze eventually dies out and the whole thing went away. Frank

I remember the craze. My handle was: Moondoggie." We had 2 CBs and a base-station.:o
 
Admitting that I'm putting off reading this thread for later, life is good again. Yesterday I bought an old fashioned 500 round brick, 10 boxes inside an outer box, of Federal Champion 40 grain .22 LR for $19.99 + sales tax at Fred Meyer. Low priced bulk pack can not be far in the future. :)

At the $200 posted above I might even get tempted to buy a modern plastic wonder gun. Maybe I should stay out of local guns store until Trump has been in office a few years. By that time I expect we will be able to scrape a rancid possum off the road and easily trade it for 3 or 4 AR-15s.
 
Admitting that I'm putting off reading this thread for later, life is good again. Yesterday I bought an old fashioned 500 round brick, 10 boxes inside an outer box, of Federal Champion 40 grain .22 LR for $19.99 + sales tax at Fred Meyer. Low priced bulk pack can not be far in the future. :)

HA! Quick Google search turned up a post that they were floggin' American Eagle .22 for $89.99/500 in 2014. ;)
 
Good Times seem to be over for the firearms industry for now...............NOT around here.....in the past year four new FFL started and three new gun stores/firing ranges opened for business.....
 

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