PPS1980
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Capitalism in action. I buy when on sale, compare prices, and stock up when its cheap. Isn't that how everyone does it?
Good Times seem to be over for the firearms industry for now
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Fishslayer
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suggestion: bottom of golf bag...returning from golf trip....or does kalifornia have border control with ammo sniffing dogs? Never heard of such......wow.......
You can teach dogs to sniff out just about anything. We do have agricultural checkpoints that could be used, I suppose.
I won't have to worry about it. I have been panic buying since 2009.
I actually educated a few of my imaginary internet friends who were gaga over that massive stockpile of 5K rounds they found in a koi pond in England. I pointed out that most of it was .22, how a lot of us bought our ammo in bulk like some people buy toilet paper... because it's simply cheaper, etc. Some of them had no idea...
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gman51
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I imagine there are thousands of guns sitting in drawers and closets probably even in their original boxes. I wonder how many still have the ammo they bought when they got the guns? If even a small part of what is expected happens then those guns will probably get dusted off and loaded sooner than we all imagine.
Yep many businesses were started because of the chance to jump in on the money train. They made their money and now they are bailing because the big money met its bust. Time to close the doors and wait for the next gravy train.
Yep many businesses were started because of the chance to jump in on the money train. They made their money and now they are bailing because the big money met its bust. Time to close the doors and wait for the next gravy train.
nicky4968
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The used market doesn't seem to move much.
A Star BM manufactured more than 20 years ago sells for $100 less than the Remington R-51. Go figure.
I like the Star pistols. Have been thinking for years of converting one to "Mexican Carry" configuration. But if I were to buy a 9 it would be the Remington or a Smith & Wesson.
A Star BM manufactured more than 20 years ago sells for $100 less than the Remington R-51. Go figure.
I like the Star pistols. Have been thinking for years of converting one to "Mexican Carry" configuration. But if I were to buy a 9 it would be the Remington or a Smith & Wesson.
BigBill
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I think it's going to increase ten fold soon. Just follow and read the news.
I think many are still on the fence about buying guns for self protection.
We just seen the tip of the ice berg in sales.
I think many are still on the fence about buying guns for self protection.
We just seen the tip of the ice berg in sales.
Arik
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Just out of curiosity, how would they know if I sold ammo to you?
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charlie sherrill
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Apparently a lot of the sellers at gun shows haven't heard the market is soft (or they paid too much for their inventory) as they are still asking way too high prices and then gripe because they aren't selling anything.
Fishslayer
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They wouldn't but just like anything else illegal, better know your customer. They bust dope dealers all the time.
IANAL but the importing thing has GOT to violate some sort of commerce law. To say I can't go make a perfectly legal transaction in Arizona and take my goods home with me just ain't right.
Importing? Isn't CA part of the USA? 
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DWalt
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I believe there will be an increase coming in rebates and sales on both guns and ammo. I've heard several dealers complain that their sales are way off from last year.
sipowicz
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Here in California we will continue to hoard ammo. But with good reason...after Dec 31st we cannot buy ammo over the internet and will be forced to pay top dollar for it in stores. This of course is after we buy our ammo permit and get fingerprinted for it.
DanWales
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Plenty of guns
Gun sales down here in Central Florida aren't hurting any. Now let me say $450 or less. Just go into Rural King any day of the week and there is a minimum of 2 people waiting on background checks to go through.
Each time in the store for something ( often ) of course I stop by that department. Might as well buy a few hundred rds of .22 while I'm there. There's usually one or two people there for pickup as well as the ones who have a CC and are waiting on the BG check. They are now starting to sell some of the upper levels in Colt, Smith, Glocks, Berretta's, Sig, etc.
Now your older LGS type shops that's another story. The established ones over the years are okay. I have seen several though that just can't meet the overhead selling today's guns.
Dan
Gun sales down here in Central Florida aren't hurting any. Now let me say $450 or less. Just go into Rural King any day of the week and there is a minimum of 2 people waiting on background checks to go through.
Each time in the store for something ( often ) of course I stop by that department. Might as well buy a few hundred rds of .22 while I'm there. There's usually one or two people there for pickup as well as the ones who have a CC and are waiting on the BG check. They are now starting to sell some of the upper levels in Colt, Smith, Glocks, Berretta's, Sig, etc.
Now your older LGS type shops that's another story. The established ones over the years are okay. I have seen several though that just can't meet the overhead selling today's guns.
Dan
Frank46
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remember the CB radio craze of the 70's?. Just about everyone I knew had one, then there were the goodies like the power mikes, special antennas and such. Few years later when the market was saturated you couldn't give them away and the craze eventually dies out and the whole thing went away. The gun manfacturers had 8 years of runaway sales and now that a new administration is in power and you know who didn't get elected they are experiencing a shortage of buyers. This downturn just might be the start of the trend of the gun makers to start putting back in the quality that made them famous. You cannot make firearms like peanuts and expect the quality to be there. one company borught out a 44 special revolver and as soon as they hit the streets complaints started coming in. Notable about the mis machined front sight dovetails. For too long the buyer has been the QC checker when he or she buys a firearm. Oh yeah that's not right so send it back to get fixed. Something that shouldn't have happen in the first place. Do I really think this is actually going to happen?. Nope, and as far as the availability of 22rf ammo, my wally world has had little to no 22rf since this whole shortage has begun. Frank
Fishslayer
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Glad this is not happening everywhere! I feel sorry for you folks going through this. I wish there was an unlike button for this!
gman51
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I am so glad I don't live in one of those anti 2nd states. I am surprised they don't require ID and finger prints to buy a holster.
PPS1980
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Shouldn't that read "Nyet, Comrade!"
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EVERY INDUSTRY IN THE WORLD has their good times and their bad times - just like the Stock Market does.
If Firearms Company CEO's are smart, they plan ahead for these slow times and squirrel away some "nuts" for the rainy days. That's called "good business sense" and THAT IS WHY some Company's have longevity and some fall by the wayside. Only the strong (and smart) survive.
If Firearms Company CEO's are smart, they plan ahead for these slow times and squirrel away some "nuts" for the rainy days. That's called "good business sense" and THAT IS WHY some Company's have longevity and some fall by the wayside. Only the strong (and smart) survive.
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