Got a new 442! Not impressed...

Seriously, dbarale, why don't you get out of law enforcement go into gunsmithing?

I would probably make the drive down to Asheville, NC just to have you work on my revolvers.

Right now I'm contemplating figuring out where allglock lives, driving up to PA and showing up at his door one moring to get him to work on my revolvers. :-)

You just can't find any good gunsmiths these days, at least not around the Washington, DC area.

You are welcome anytime my friend!........ :)
 
All I know is that my no-lock 442 has, so far, run flawlessly. That does not mean, however, that I'm not concerned about quality problems other posters have mentioned. I'm keeping an open mind...either way.
 
Nope, I'm a cop and I need to qualify with it so I can carry it on-duty as my backup. And I'm sorry but a few weeks should be plenty enough on a brand new gun. I foolishly expect new things to work as advertised, call me crazy...

Did you buy it with LEO pricing or is this a strictly commercial gun?

I don't recall EVER seeing a LEO priced gun being reported as returned due to defect on ANY forum I have been on the last 20 years.

Glock or S&W! I have never heard of a bad new blue label glock or an LEO special priced handgun.


Maybe you should have purchased it from an LEO only dealer...
 
Did you buy it with LEO pricing or is this a strictly commercial gun?

I don't recall EVER seeing a LEO priced gun being reported as returned due to defect on ANY forum I have been on the last 20 years.

Glock or S&W! I have never heard of a bad new blue label glock or an LEO special priced handgun.


Maybe you should have purchased it from an LEO only dealer...

Hello 2 years ago!!!!
 
"Trigger is now great (though heavy, but it's a duty gun so no spring swap on this one)."

After a few thousand rounds of dry and live firing of my 3 year old 442-2 no lock, the trigger is now much easier to pull and quite smooth. This is important for me, as I have a lot of arthritis in my trigger finger. It just keeps getting better!

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I am now middle aged, if we live to be 120 years old... So far no arthritis but I don't squat or sit cross-legged either. I am a belt and suspenders kind of guy and a back up to my primary semi auto seems to be in order. I now have a S&W Model 442. It has one interesting feature. It is easy to two-stage the action before firing, much more so than my S&W Model 37, which of course has a single action function and external hammer. I hope the heavy trigger responds to lots of dry fire practice. I vacillated between one of the ultralight 357 Mag five shot models and this one. Surprisingly little advantage with the same 125 grain bullet from a sub 2 inch barrel, toward the magnum, with lots of muzzle blast and recoil. I think I've made a good choice. The first day carrying it bugged me but then I got used to the banging against my thigh in cargo pants.
 
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On arriving to look at a model 60, I noticed a 642. As a carry firearm it made much more sense to carry that 642.
I purchased the almost new 1980 model 60 with it's orginal box, papers and cleaning gear.
Why? Because I knew the chances of it giving me any sort of a problem or having to call S&W for whatever reason were almost never going to happen.

I am not crapping on S&W as a company. I am happy that they still manufacture firearms one State away from me.
I also know that S&W is no small firearms company.
I do not have the numbers of the total revolvers made and sent out the door everyday, but it is not a small number.

The amount of good revolvers leaving is much larger than the bad. Years ago without a doubt the number of bad revolvers were much smaller and that brings me back to why I bought the more expensive 1980 model 60 over the much newer model 642.

One thing is for sure though, If I am carrying a revolver as a protection tool, it will work every day, every time and the day it needs a repair is the day it gets traded.

1980 was smack in the middle of Bangor Punta ownership of S&W and yes there were many QC issues. The old days aren't always great. I was issued a M19 made in 1978 that had the barrel screwed in just a tad too far. I couldn't move the rear sight far enough to get it to shoot straight. Took 4 months to get it back from S&W. I was issued a M28 as a replacement and didn't want the 19 back when it came. Don't assume a 1980 gun will be without issues.
 
QUALITY 1st

I lost some construction jobs over the years.
The issue was I was building a "Cadillac" and the contracto[r/B] wanted a "Chevy".

When I was sworn in to the IBEW I took an oath to do work in a journeymen like manner. I did my part.
The push for quantity has now pushed QUALITY aside in many businesses. As a union tradesmen we must persevere.
Any thing less is dishonorable to yourself and your nation.

Too bad neither political party understands this.
 
I had nearly picked up a 642 about 6 years ago and right at the check out counter I looked down the sights and find the exact same problem. I didn't pick up another S&W again until this year. Dad to see this still happening. A guy on the taurus forum just had the same issue as well. So sad that he made the jump to a Smith only to get garbage like that. It's embarrassing.
 
I bought a new 642 Pro, no lock and moon clips, a few years ago that the cylinder stopped turning and found metal shavings in the works. Cleaned and lubed and it was fine but certainly not what I expected from SW.

All but one of my SWs now are 20+ years old.
 
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