Side bar question........................... Holsters with the Viper mounted?
Special holster needed or not?
Special holster needed or not?
Got a new m and p core today in 9 mm
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bimmerland
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Nope. If you don't need retention a blade tech revolution works fine. Comes with paddle and belt options
Safariland makes an ALS style that uses your index finger to lock the firearm in place. Mine came with a paddle but it will accept a range of options.
kmanick
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at what kind of ranges (distance) have you tested accuracy out to yet?
I shoot my shield and 9C very well (now that I've had the triggers done)
but only out to about 50 feet.
I've been thinking about getting into some competition and figured this rig would be a good fit for me, since I feel at home with the M&P line.
I shoot my shield and 9C very well (now that I've had the triggers done)
but only out to about 50 feet.
I've been thinking about getting into some competition and figured this rig would be a good fit for me, since I feel at home with the M&P line.
bimmerland
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My indoor range has a limitation of 20 yards. I'll give you my example of accuracy. At 15 feet with iron sights I split a popsicle stick in half free hand. I also noticed the decrease in muzzle flip and being in an enclosed area the additional noise created was negligent. I load my own 9mm. My best accurate loads are extreme 124gr copper plated with 4.4gr titegroup and 1.125 oal.
STORMINORMAN
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BladeTech's Combo Pack seemed like a great deal to me: both belt & paddle options, twin magazine carrier and a "practice barrel".
My question out there is about other owner's experiences when cleaning the ported barrel: mine seems to accumulate quite a bit externally after even a mild range visit... Say 75 rounds of plated 40 reloads? If there is THAT much on the outside, just IMAGINE the insides!
It all comes off, eventually, but I eventually tried using a little Mother's Mag Wheel Polish and a Q-Tip. Used a little Ballistol afterwards to C-L-P the metal.
Cheers!
P.S. Sure do like the trigger on the PC C.O.R.E. Big improvement, IMHO!
My question out there is about other owner's experiences when cleaning the ported barrel: mine seems to accumulate quite a bit externally after even a mild range visit... Say 75 rounds of plated 40 reloads? If there is THAT much on the outside, just IMAGINE the insides!
It all comes off, eventually, but I eventually tried using a little Mother's Mag Wheel Polish and a Q-Tip. Used a little Ballistol afterwards to C-L-P the metal.
Cheers!
P.S. Sure do like the trigger on the PC C.O.R.E. Big improvement, IMHO!
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When you say "....on the inside...." if you mean in the bore, then no. Burnt powder blasts out the same as an unported gun. Just that some goes out the ports, some out the end.....
When you say "....on the inside...." if you mean in the bore, then no. Burnt powder blasts out the same as an unported gun. Just that some goes out the ports, some out the muzzle.....and a mess between the slide and the barrel.
I have a PC 4.25" ported core and a Vortex Viper red dot. Mine co-witnesses with the irons perfectly. My only beef is that the locking screws to secure your windage and elevation adjustment is blocked by the rear sight. It can be worked around I suppose, but it IS a pain in the keyster.
bimmerland
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I called vortex about that and they stated that even if the locking screws weren't tight the settings should not lose zero. I'll see when I get mine to the range next week
I get a lot of carbon on the exterior of my barrel as well. It is tenacious stuff that doesn't wipe off with CLP or Iosso brightening paste (whatever it's called - similar to Flitz). I have to scrape the deposits off the barrel. The slide and frame get some schmutz as well, but it comes off easy enough.
Oddly, I also am a fan of "C" Glocks that have similar ports, and the barrel just wipes clean. The hard stuff that sticks on a Glock is on the cross-section surfaces of the slide port cuts.
Thanks, bimmerland!
bimmerland
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How did you determine how much tightening force to put on the mounting screws. Did you buy a torque screwdriver?
kmanick
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Someone just hooked me up with one of these. I went with the 5" ported
performance center with the shield sms already installed. It should be here early next week
these area not on the MAss AG list so we it was very difficult to find one
performance center with the shield sms already installed. It should be here early next week
these area not on the MAss AG list so we it was very difficult to find one
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bimmerland
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The performance shield is a much better gun than the regular shield. Better trigger sights and is ported. I'm using a safariland 7371 tls paddle holster.Someone just hooked me up with one of these. I went with the 5" ported
performance center with the shield sms already installed. It should be here early next week
these area not on the MAss AG list so we it was very difficult to find one
kmanick
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not a shield this is what Is incoming
Performance Center(R) Ported M&P(R)9L Red Dot Sight | Smith & Wesson
kmanick
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and it arrived today
I actually got to hit the range with it today as well.
I don't have the Red dot dialed in how I want it yet,
and it took me about 70 rounds to get used to a 5" full sized gun (all I've been shooting for the past year is my shield and 9C)
but I did OK (not great yet) but for my first outing with this thing at 50 feet. (the red dot is pointing me high and to the right)
I'm confident after a few more trips and getting some one to help me dial in the Dot , I'll be on my way to some Steel plate challenges
I've never owned a ported handgun before.....so far I'm really liking it
I actually got to hit the range with it today as well.
I don't have the Red dot dialed in how I want it yet,
and it took me about 70 rounds to get used to a 5" full sized gun (all I've been shooting for the past year is my shield and 9C)
but I did OK (not great yet) but for my first outing with this thing at 50 feet. (the red dot is pointing me high and to the right)
I'm confident after a few more trips and getting some one to help me dial in the Dot , I'll be on my way to some Steel plate challenges
I've never owned a ported handgun before.....so far I'm really liking it
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My experience with the ported barrel/slide was not good. After about 20 rounds of Fiocchi 9mm FMJ, my front sights and slide were covered in powder residue.
After 1,000 plus rounds, I changed the barrel with an Apex semi-fit non-ported barrel and was the best decision IMO. I should of just got the Pro.
kmanick
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I shot about 200 rounds today and did not have anywhere near what your picture showed.
I may at some point go with an apex barrel, but as of right now , it's looking like I got one of the good ones. (Most likely will change out the trigger as that hinged design bothers me after a while)
I may at some point go with an apex barrel, but as of right now , it's looking like I got one of the good ones. (Most likely will change out the trigger as that hinged design bothers me after a while)
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Kmanick, not the first time I've heard that. Somebody posted on another forum that they put 200 rounds of S&B and didn't have the powder problem I had. Maybe its the Fiocchi I was shooting.
Not to hijack the thread, but the Apex barrel did make the gun significantly more accurate compared to the S&W ported barrel.
Not to hijack the thread, but the Apex barrel did make the gun significantly more accurate compared to the S&W ported barrel.
bimmerland
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Maybe one of you kind gentlemen can help me. I bought my core used and wanted to mount a viper but was missing a type B screw. I contacted S&W and they kindly sent me the wrong screw. If you have one type B you can part with I would be eternally grateful and if I ever get things straightened out with S&W I will return your type B. Thanks
