Anybody on the forum with gout that could recommend Black Cherry Concentrate? I've read some info but not sure if it's something I should try. So far I'm on Colchicine and it seems to be helping. It has side effects though and wonder if something more natural would help.
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M E Morrison
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It did help, but fresh cherries are better. Get some info on modifying your diet to eliminate troublesome foods and that should keep gout at bay without medications.
I have taken allopurinol for 10 years and not an attack since I started it.
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Holy ****. I just looked up the foods to avoid if you have gout. Shellfish, rich sauces, orange juice, soda, red meat, fried foods, too much caffeine, alcohol and fish. I have no idea what kind of diet I'd have to be on to avoid all my favorites.
The cherry juice helps. Ive been on the Alloprunol for a couple years and only had a couple bad flares. I notice it a little if I don't watch my diet.
Arik
Member
Rice cakes!
DeathGrip
US Veteran
Gout story,
I was riding my bike one night and saw my friend and drummers dog loose.
"C'mon Ben".
He ain't hearing nothing. He ducks between the yards and I hear Woofing and an answering growl.
"Schiesse".
Old Ben comes out of the yard in slow pursuit of a Rottie and a Dobbie. I guess I should mention that Ben was a Leopard Hound.
I tried to put my bike betwixt them but,
The Rottie was a male and had enough of Ben. That was a mistake. He lost his ear and wound up with a big scar across his face.
Another neighbor managed to put a broom handle between his collar and the ground. It worked and the Rottie took off squealing with the Dobbie in tow. (actually she put up a bit of resistance but Ben didn't seem to notice)
The Gout story?
My friend and drummer had gout and by the time it was over he came gimping over.
I felt sorrier for him than the Rottie.
feel better.
I was riding my bike one night and saw my friend and drummers dog loose.
"C'mon Ben".
He ain't hearing nothing. He ducks between the yards and I hear Woofing and an answering growl.
"Schiesse".
Old Ben comes out of the yard in slow pursuit of a Rottie and a Dobbie. I guess I should mention that Ben was a Leopard Hound.
I tried to put my bike betwixt them but,
The Rottie was a male and had enough of Ben. That was a mistake. He lost his ear and wound up with a big scar across his face.
Another neighbor managed to put a broom handle between his collar and the ground. It worked and the Rottie took off squealing with the Dobbie in tow. (actually she put up a bit of resistance but Ben didn't seem to notice)
The Gout story?
My friend and drummer had gout and by the time it was over he came gimping over.
I felt sorrier for him than the Rottie.
feel better.
Beemer-mark
Member
My father had gout so bad they wanted to amputated his lower leg. I had in my big toe, which then destroys the joint, which is even worse for pain. My brother has it also. IMHO experience the only thing that helps is oxycodone & whiskey. Seriously, medical science doesn't have a clue what causes it but they have the best medicine to mitigate the pain. Forget Aunt Mae's home remedies.
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carpriver
US Veteran
I have used Tart Cherry juice concentrate, 3 tablespoons a day help with inflammation and joint pain.
Tart Cherry is the one that is supposed to work. I gave up on all the rules, and started Uloric. Expensive, but it keeps the gout at least to a mild roar. So many other places hurt that it is a contributor, not a cause.
I keep Colcrys (colchicine 0.6mg) on hand for flareups.
I keep Colcrys (colchicine 0.6mg) on hand for flareups.
Yes Uloric works but in the beginning it can make things worse till it kicks in fully. Your doctor can prescribe a drug you take for a few day that will let the Uloric work good right from the get-go.(That was 7 years ago and I do not remember the name of the "helper drug)
As far as Tart Cherry it does help/work but it takes a couple weeks to get going and after that you have to take it regularly. The key work here is IT HELPS!
Uloric is the way to go, it’s a bit expensive but my rather good medical plans pay a good percentage of it. Since I started on Uloric I had one minor flair up.
I love clams and mushrooms among many other verboten things, Uloric allows me to enjoy them in moderation.
cowart
US Veteran
Gout attacks come in different severity levels, from mild to wild.
You don't have to avoid all of your favorite foods. Chances are good that your gout is only caused by one or two specific food items. You can experiment on yourself to find out which ones are applicable in your case.
Once you've identified the culprit, you can do some more experimenting to determine *how much* of that food causes the problem. Once you've done that, you can just stay below that level.
vigil617
US Veteran
I started having gout issues in my right big toe joint a few years ago. I ignored it at first, not realizing what it was, and the flares would come and go. They never were bad enough that, for instance, I couldn't even stand to have the sheet touching my toe when I was lying in bed, as some folks do.
Doc diagnosed me and, with his permission, I tried managing my diet to see if I could handle it without medication. Didn't work.
He put me on allpurinol (two 100 mg tabs, once a day, but this varies from person to person), and the flares stopped immediately. There is another med he gave me for if I started to feel the pain coming into the toe -- and it works, too, but you have to stop taking the allpurinol while you're taking the pain med.
The great thing, for me, is that I have had to make no changes in my diet. I eat all those things you mentioned above, and have no issues at all. Plus, the allpurinol is about the most benign med I have ever taken. I honestly have experienced no side effects whatsoever.
I hope you can get a handle on this. I know it's a pain. Good luck!
Doc diagnosed me and, with his permission, I tried managing my diet to see if I could handle it without medication. Didn't work.
He put me on allpurinol (two 100 mg tabs, once a day, but this varies from person to person), and the flares stopped immediately. There is another med he gave me for if I started to feel the pain coming into the toe -- and it works, too, but you have to stop taking the allpurinol while you're taking the pain med.
The great thing, for me, is that I have had to make no changes in my diet. I eat all those things you mentioned above, and have no issues at all. Plus, the allpurinol is about the most benign med I have ever taken. I honestly have experienced no side effects whatsoever.
I hope you can get a handle on this. I know it's a pain. Good luck!
gout...I've had several attacks in the past....the PAIN makes you sit up and take notice....modified my diet..........less meat, more fruit and vegetables, 95% less salty and sweet snacks....NO fast food, NO alcohol, vitamin C two 500mg tablets daily......after awhile the new diet becomes a life change and the absence of pain makes it all worthwhile.....
I have insurance issues with Uloric. Ins will pay the 80mg pill, but not the 40mg. They figure if you are not bad enough off to need the 80mg, you don't have a problem. So I get the prescription for 80mg, and cut them in half.
I am often horrified at the convoluted logic that manifests itself in my company insurance decisions.
I am often horrified at the convoluted logic that manifests itself in my company insurance decisions.
Allo..,colchicine & indomethacin are what I get from the VA............
I also do the dark cherry juice along with.......
#1 NO more beer ..... worst booze of all.
#2 minimum sea food, except salmon. ( no more pizza w/anchovies ) bummer.
#3 Asparagus worst vegi of all. (no more w/burnt butter) bummer.
#4 Duck hunting yes but cut down on the wild meat !!
instead of a whole Mallard, it is a whole Teal, now.
The VA gave me a list of what not to eat and a exercise list.
Which was very nice of them................................
I also do the dark cherry juice along with.......
#1 NO more beer ..... worst booze of all.
#2 minimum sea food, except salmon. ( no more pizza w/anchovies ) bummer.
#3 Asparagus worst vegi of all. (no more w/burnt butter) bummer.
#4 Duck hunting yes but cut down on the wild meat !!
instead of a whole Mallard, it is a whole Teal, now.
The VA gave me a list of what not to eat and a exercise list.
Which was very nice of them................................
chaparrito
Member
You won't try this and I'm not a big believer in anecdotal cures, but I'll tell you anyhow.
I had gout in my left big toe badly. Got to where I was having an episode monthly that nearly immobilized me. I had tried colchicine. Loved the directions: "Take daily until symptoms subside or diarrhea ensues. Uh huh, no thanks. Doc wanted me to take Allopurinol. Didn't like the side effects and possible liver damage I read about, so again no thanks.
I had been given a script for indomethacin; an NSAID by another doctor. It worked to alleviate symptoms but my current doc said absolutely not. No NSAIDS. You'll kill your kidneys he said and you'll die if you take them too much.
Prednisolone worked well. I used to take veterinary Pred I had on hand for the horses, but it is a steroid and I didn't want to grow a hump, and liver damage is a possibility. I like my cocktails.
I had been reading about Curcumin extract. Curcumin is the concentrate that comes from Turmeric Root. A relative of Ginger, it's the spice that makes curry orange. There is a lot of research being done on it by reputable scientists including the M.D. Anderson cancer center and others. They are looking into its strong anti-inflammatory and anti-cancer properties.
Anyhow I started experimenting. I now take curcumin extract in high doses morning and evening with no side effects. I have not had a gout episode in three years and as a side benefit no longer have to take Ibuprofen for the arthritis in my neck and lower back.
Back when I was having episodes, I tried tart cherry juice, slugging down cups of it. Tasty stuff, but the good kind is pricey and I never was sure it had any effect. You have to take the curcumin all the time and it takes 2-4 weeks for it to begin working.
I had gout in my left big toe badly. Got to where I was having an episode monthly that nearly immobilized me. I had tried colchicine. Loved the directions: "Take daily until symptoms subside or diarrhea ensues. Uh huh, no thanks. Doc wanted me to take Allopurinol. Didn't like the side effects and possible liver damage I read about, so again no thanks.
I had been given a script for indomethacin; an NSAID by another doctor. It worked to alleviate symptoms but my current doc said absolutely not. No NSAIDS. You'll kill your kidneys he said and you'll die if you take them too much.
Prednisolone worked well. I used to take veterinary Pred I had on hand for the horses, but it is a steroid and I didn't want to grow a hump, and liver damage is a possibility. I like my cocktails.
I had been reading about Curcumin extract. Curcumin is the concentrate that comes from Turmeric Root. A relative of Ginger, it's the spice that makes curry orange. There is a lot of research being done on it by reputable scientists including the M.D. Anderson cancer center and others. They are looking into its strong anti-inflammatory and anti-cancer properties.
Anyhow I started experimenting. I now take curcumin extract in high doses morning and evening with no side effects. I have not had a gout episode in three years and as a side benefit no longer have to take Ibuprofen for the arthritis in my neck and lower back.
Back when I was having episodes, I tried tart cherry juice, slugging down cups of it. Tasty stuff, but the good kind is pricey and I never was sure it had any effect. You have to take the curcumin all the time and it takes 2-4 weeks for it to begin working.
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chaparrito
Member
Those lists of what not to eat are hilarious. No beer? No tomatoes? No red meat? No red wine?
Might as well just shoot me now.
Might as well just shoot me now.
