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And what happens to their soul when they get sold at the gun buy-backs?
Greatest 9mm Ever Made
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And what happens to their soul when they get sold at the gun buy-backs?
I like the HP and it shoots great, but gives me hammer bite every time. For that reason, I like the CZ 75 variants better.
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Same thing that happened to the millions of 1911's, Garands, and carbines that went to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean in WWII . . . they rust and rot into oblivion.
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Well, to answer your “wonder”, I AM a gun fondler because at 75 that’s about all I can remember how or what to fondle!
And yes, old age sucks!
I have two Browning BDMs plus their 15 round mags. One set for SA the other for DA only. Simply turn a key slot to change. Very easy to use and conceal. These were to be the HP's successor but they ran into the Clinton 10 round mandate. They go nicely with my Inglis Mk II, two 75's (full size and compact) and an assortment of M9 varieties. Which do I choose? The BDMs. Dave_n
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Greatest 9mm ever made?
the Sig P365 WITH amphibious safety and the Ruger PPC in 9mm. (nobody said it had to be a handgun)
the Sig P365 WITH amphibious safety and the Ruger PPC in 9mm. (nobody said it had to be a handgun)
That’s a fair point.
Technically this started out as a handgun before I was forced to either remove the brace or register it as any SBR, by an ATF that doesn’t see any need to follow the requirements of administrative procedures act, routinely misuses and misapplies the Chevron doctrine, and fails to understand or heed the Rule of Lenity.
Just for fun it has a Franklin Binary trigger, and there’s a suppressor for it sitting on a shelf waiting for the Form 4 to be processed. The suppressor will make it even more home defense friendly.
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My vote:
Beretta/Wilson Combat 92G Brigadier Tactical
Beretta/Wilson Combat 92G Brigadier Tactical
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The original M16 and M16A1 patterns have been much maligned. But, kept properly clean they are reliable, accurate, light, well balanced, have good ergonomics, andare very good at what they were designed to do. With 20” barrels and M193 the terminal effects are also good out to about 200m.
Unfortunately, the A2 changes took it in a direction it was really never intended to go and tried to make it into something it was not. The inevitable reaction to that was the short and less effective M4, which equally unfortunately way too many shooters tart up with tactical rails and attached tacti-cool gadgets, turning an otherwise lightweight, handy carbine into an over weight and slow moving rifle that can’t seem to decide what it is supposed to be.
I don’t mind the AR-15 carbines, they just need to be configured for a specific purpose and not weighed down with unnecessary tactical do dads.
The M4 is actually my favorite configuration...
In their base configuration, I think that AR Carbines are extremely handy, the issue is that people attach all sorts of gagets until it looks like something that was cobbled together to declare war on ghosts.
It actually makes me laugh whenever I see someone post a pic of their crazy SOPMOD M4gery proudly declaring it as the ultimate TEOTWAKI carbine, when it's all covered in battery powered devices.
For me I like my Colt Combat Commander, it's a .45...I know I know, I shoot it better than any pistol I have ever owned, followed a close second by my Sig P210 Standard...this pistol is truly a machine. Of course, I have the obligatory Glock 17 which resides in nightstand...yup I said it
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When I was still working I had an interesting chance to extoll the virtues of the Browning High Power design. I worked for a Baltimore based law firm that had numerous branch offices. Back before I left the firm in 2002, as per usual practice a list of new cases was sent to all of the offices to ascertain whether there were any conflicts of interest. One of the cases was against the old Remington Arms Company, so I called the litigation partner to see what the case was about.
It turned out that down in Prince Georges County, MD, there was an accidental shooting that killed a teenaged boy and his parents were suing everyone in sight. The claim was that Remington made a defective gun because it went off with the magazine removed. I told the partner that I had a lot of experience with firearms and could probably help out on the case.
It turned out the the gun in question was an FEG 9mm pistol made in Hungary, a clone of the Browning High Power. I told the partner that Remington hadn't made a semiautomatic pistol since at least back to World War II (remember this was more than 20 years ago). He had me come to the conference with the parents and their counsel at the courthouse. An investigator brought in the gun and I got to examine it . I was able to determine that all of the safety mechanisms (magazine safety, thumb safety and disconnector) worked as designed.
Our side went for a Motion to Dismiss Remington out of the case. I swore out an affidavit that I was a competitive shooter with decades of experience, and that I was familiar with the design of the gun, being it was a copy of the well respected Browning High Power. I further swore that I had examined the gun and found that all of the safety features worked as designed, and that the gun was not manufactured by Remington.
When all was said and done, Remington was dismissed from the case and never had to go to trial. The litigation partner was VERY happy with me.
It turned out that down in Prince Georges County, MD, there was an accidental shooting that killed a teenaged boy and his parents were suing everyone in sight. The claim was that Remington made a defective gun because it went off with the magazine removed. I told the partner that I had a lot of experience with firearms and could probably help out on the case.
It turned out the the gun in question was an FEG 9mm pistol made in Hungary, a clone of the Browning High Power. I told the partner that Remington hadn't made a semiautomatic pistol since at least back to World War II (remember this was more than 20 years ago). He had me come to the conference with the parents and their counsel at the courthouse. An investigator brought in the gun and I got to examine it . I was able to determine that all of the safety mechanisms (magazine safety, thumb safety and disconnector) worked as designed.
Our side went for a Motion to Dismiss Remington out of the case. I swore out an affidavit that I was a competitive shooter with decades of experience, and that I was familiar with the design of the gun, being it was a copy of the well respected Browning High Power. I further swore that I had examined the gun and found that all of the safety features worked as designed, and that the gun was not manufactured by Remington.
When all was said and done, Remington was dismissed from the case and never had to go to trial. The litigation partner was VERY happy with me.
Inglis Hi Power with internal extractor (sorry OP but yours is defective). Manufactured in 1944. “Factory through repair” in England 1963. Was that when it got painted black? I don’t know. Matching serial numbers on the frame, slide and barrel but in 3 completely different fonts. It cost me $300 and runs like a top.
P.S. does anyone honestly feel the Beretta safety is ergonomic?
Looks like a BB gun.
The others don't claim "perfection".
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OMG, it's a figure of speech. It's meant to convey the pride of ownership and feeling you get when owning, for example, an old school car that wasn't 90% fiber glass vs the modern dime of dozen cars they have today. There's just something about the feel, heft, beauty, and pride you get from a nice 1911, CZ 75, Beretta 92, Hi Power, prelock S&W, older Colt Python, so on and so forth versus the the dime a dozen, cheap, disposable, unattractive, generic, and unrefined Tupperware that's flooded the market today.
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You have a point. Glock does continually work to enhance their products. Like when they went from no finger grooves to finger groves back to no finger grooves, or when they went to a worse slide finish with the Gen 5. Glock perfection at it's finest.
All jokes aside, I don't understand why everyone totes "Glock's reliability" as if there aren't a plethora of other polymer strike-fired handguns on the market that are also reliable. Some talk as if Glock has a monopoly on reliability. That may have been true decades ago, but it's not the case today.
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