guess the round

[mscampbell2734]

OK for a little levity during the holidays. Guess this round, no Google cheating.

 

[Heinz]

Duh, it says Colt 38 Short. I believe it is a black powder equivalent cartridge for some of those funky Colt "house guns " of the late 19th century

 

[mscampbell2734]

Duh, it says Colt 38 Short. I believe it is a black powder equivalent cartridge for some of those funky Colt "house guns " of the late 19th century

Not quite. If you notice the brass case is mounted into some other case, forming a whole new animal.

 

[RCL-09]

40MM practice round

Edited to add... for a M79 or M203

 

[mscampbell2734]

40MM practice round

Edited to add... for a M79 or M203

Closer but not quite

 

[lkabug]

Maybe a M651 crowd control ?

 

[mscampbell2734]

We have a winner

When I first attended the school for this weapon I was a little shocked the manufacture had chosen such an odd caliber blank to power the round. They must have gotten a heck of a good deal in a bulk purchase.

Anyway they offer a press kit to punch out the blank cartridge and insert a new blank cartridge so rounds can be rebuilt for training purposes. Factory new ammo is $17 per round, blanks from the manufacture were 2 years ago $1 a blank, and the press was something like $200. The "bullets" are just hand seated.

 

[Green Frog]

Does an actual projectile come out of the finished round? Or tear gas? Or pepper spray? Curious minds…

 

[mscampbell2734]

Does an actual projectile come out of the finished round? Or tear gas? Or pepper spray? Curious minds…

The entire thing above the aluminum case is the projectile, plus it extends about half way down into the case. It's hollow plastic, covered with about 1/8 inch of that blue foam. Not real cushiony when it hits.

The manufacture DOES offer something like 5-6 different rounds, some where the foam is dusted with dye so you can find the person afterwards, some dusted in OC dust so it functions like being sprayed with OC, some where the plastic "bullet" is replaced with a double thick "sock" filled with lead shot. The sock round is not accurate past 50 feet but it packs triple the punch as the foam round, which is what's in the picture. The foam round IS accurate, meaning you can pick one person out of a crowd and him them in the torso, out to 100 feet.

 

[Hair Trigger]

That round looks a lot like a Mk19 grenade. Talk about crowd control.....

 

[DWalt]

Perhaps the .38 SC case was used because of its dimensions. I think the .38 SC is still loaded. Works fine in any .38 Special or .357 revolver, also will work OK in .38 S&W revolvers. One of the oldest CF cartridges still in production.

 

[mscampbell2734]

That round looks a lot like a Mk19 grenade. Talk about crowd control.....

I remember being told the manufacture of the launcher had to jump through a lop of hoops because they are 40mm, rifled barrels and CAN fire M203/M79 rounds. The older crowd control launchers were 37mm smoothbores just to avoid certain legal and licensing requirements.

 

[mscampbell2734]

Perhaps the .38 SC case was used because of its dimensions. I think the .38 SC is still loaded. Works fine in any .38 Special or .357 revolver, also will work OK in .38 S&W revolvers. One of the oldest CF cartridges still in production.

I honestly have no idea. I myself never used the reload press so I have no idea if a longer 38 Spl blank would fit. Seems to me that would have been a better choice, must more common, meaning probable cheaper.

Or the manufacture could have gone with the SC and machined the case for an exact fit just so we could not go out and get our own blanks.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Its possible there is no room under the shell for a longer .38 Special or .357 Magnum case. That might be why they use a Colt .38 Short case.

 

[mscampbell2734]

Its possible there is no room under the shell for a longer .38 Special or .357 Magnum case. That might be why they use a Colt .38 Short case.

Not so sure about that. The projectile is hollow, so there is quite a bit of space under it.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Not so sure about that. The projectile is hollow, so there is quite a bit of space under it.

I didn't know the shell a is hollow. It sounds like that guess isn't going to be the answer lol.