I am very new to guns in general (please be patient with me). I just bought a new M&P 9mm. I purchsed a gun cleaning kit with it. It came with 2 products; gun cleaner & gun oil. Have been on many you tube sites & seen many people also using gun grease. My question is this; Whats the difference between gun oil & gun grease? Is gun grease neccesary?
Gun oil or gun grease??
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The grease will last longer but can be a problem if your gun is subjected to very cold weather. I've used both and as long as you maintain your gun regurarly (I have the M&P 9C) the oil is best, at least in my humble opinion.
Justin,
Conventional wisdom is, if it rotates, oil it. If it slides, grease it (Tetra is a good product). On your new semi auto, use grease on the slide-to-frame rails. A little goes a long way. A quality gun oil or 30 wt. synthetic engine oil work well for all other lube requirements.
I like to use Rem-oil or CLP for oiling.
You can find a fine selection of quality products through Midway or Brownells (google them).
Mike
Conventional wisdom is, if it rotates, oil it. If it slides, grease it (Tetra is a good product). On your new semi auto, use grease on the slide-to-frame rails. A little goes a long way. A quality gun oil or 30 wt. synthetic engine oil work well for all other lube requirements.
I like to use Rem-oil or CLP for oiling.
You can find a fine selection of quality products through Midway or Brownells (google them).
Mike
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Bicky Robby
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Exactly what he said.
grimreaper21
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I used mpro 7 oil on the frame to slide, and before even firing it I took it back down to see if it was still there and I wasnt impressed. He might be right I think the grease will stick around longer. Whats a good gun grease?
afultz075
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I use Gunslick Graphite grease on just about all my Semis and it works great.
nearlynormalmike
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Loctite, while well known for it's adhesives, also makes lubricants. I use their C5-A copper based product with which I am quite impressed. It seems to be thicker than oil but thinner than grease. I think I got it from Brownells.
Check it out.
Check it out.
cornchucker
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I use MilCom TW25 grease on slide rails and any good oil on the rest.
chuck s
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CLP is all ya need. I don't see the word "grease" in the M&P manual. Grease makes no sense at all if it's not specified.
Grease slows the movement of parts and adds friction. This can upset the timing of the pistol. I can induce stoppages in some pistols by using grease rather than CLP.
All ya need is a very light coat of lube for carry purposes. Heavy lube for a 500 round range session.
-- Chuck
Grease slows the movement of parts and adds friction. This can upset the timing of the pistol. I can induce stoppages in some pistols by using grease rather than CLP.
All ya need is a very light coat of lube for carry purposes. Heavy lube for a 500 round range session.
-- Chuck
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flkinganuthin
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oh no! I just repacked all my bearings in my front end!
theres no way a slight thin layer of good synthetic grease on the slide rails is gonna slow down a pistol or cause friction ... thats just non sense . good quality grease works excellent on the slide rails and last far longer then any oil .
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CGhelofxr
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There are two post refering to a graphite and a copper based grease, as I am fairly new to semi's I would think that using either of those grease products would cause wear on poly framed pistols. Has anyone using either of these noticed this?
I have not used either on any of my guns, but I have in other applications and I don't foresee it as a problem. I'm not trying to be smart but you do know the rails in poly guns are steel?
I just got in a tub of Slide-Glide from Brian Enos. At first blush this stuff blows away the other stuff I have used. I have several other gun grease products and I always felt they were to runny. Slide-Glide is pasty and even stringy. Enos claims softer felt recoil. I can't comment on that yet, I will say just racking the two M&P's I applied his product to now feel like they are riding on Teflon runners. Very noticeable difference.
Oh, and concerning the oil vs. grease vs. nothing debate, I will never forget years ago showing up at a match with my 'new' DCM issued M1 Garand. I had just finished my usual cleaning which included a light coat of oil. When I handed it to the ex-Marine range officer for inspection he gave it one look, grabbed a tub of grease and proceeded to apply liberal amounts to the appropriate moving parts. The lesson was learned and I have been applying grease to my firearms ever since.
Oh, and concerning the oil vs. grease vs. nothing debate, I will never forget years ago showing up at a match with my 'new' DCM issued M1 Garand. I had just finished my usual cleaning which included a light coat of oil. When I handed it to the ex-Marine range officer for inspection he gave it one look, grabbed a tub of grease and proceeded to apply liberal amounts to the appropriate moving parts. The lesson was learned and I have been applying grease to my firearms ever since.
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CGhelofxr
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I am aware the rails are steel, but I also know that if the grease builds up from the action of the slide it could start to wear on the poly, and this would be applicable more so to the graphite and/or the copper based grease. A light coat of petroleum or synthetic based would not have the abrasiveness of the other two
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I’ll second Slide-Grease from Brian Enos. I use the thinnest formula on 22lrs, 9s, and 45s… A little goes a very long way. I use a foam Q-tip applicator and work in a very small amount in the slide guide as well as the rails. After 500 rounds the stuff is still there!
I’ll second the slide racking feel as well… it feels like an air hockey puck…
I’ll second the slide racking feel as well… it feels like an air hockey puck…
grease vs. oil on M&P
Hi all, I was curious about this too. I cleaned my M&P and wondered about grease vs. oil.
I see a mixed bag on this, not only here but on other forums and blogs - seems that everyone has his or her own opinion, backing it up with support that primarily goes like this "well I've used 'x' for years and it's always worked fine".
So I decided to contact Smith and Wesson on the matter and ask what an M&P semi automatic owner should be using for lube on his/her M&P - grease or oil - specifically on the rails and the reply was to ONLY use oil on the gun, not grease. The rep recommended just using "normal gun oil".
Anyhow, take it FWIW but straight from the manufacture's mouth!
cheers,
glpier.
Hi all, I was curious about this too. I cleaned my M&P and wondered about grease vs. oil.
I see a mixed bag on this, not only here but on other forums and blogs - seems that everyone has his or her own opinion, backing it up with support that primarily goes like this "well I've used 'x' for years and it's always worked fine".
So I decided to contact Smith and Wesson on the matter and ask what an M&P semi automatic owner should be using for lube on his/her M&P - grease or oil - specifically on the rails and the reply was to ONLY use oil on the gun, not grease. The rep recommended just using "normal gun oil".
Anyhow, take it FWIW but straight from the manufacture's mouth!
cheers,
glpier.
poorbroker
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