Gun trace article

[steelslaver]

Interesting article
The states with the most guns traced to them by the federal government

The states with the most guns traced to them by the federal government

This group of states that are around me are very "gun friendly" have lots of gun shows and allow face to face sales with no FFL paper work.

#45. Wyoming Traced firearms per 10k residents: 5.06
Total firearms: 293

#40. Idaho Traced firearms per 10k residents: 7.24
Total firearms: 1,376

#36. South Dakota Traced firearms per 10k residents: 9.24
- Total firearms: 827

#34. North Dakota Traced firearms per 10k residents: 9.94- Total firearms: 770

#33. Montana Traced firearms per 10k residents: 10.63 - Total firearms: 1,174

Now these state require a permit to purchase and no face to face sales without an FFL

#25. Oregon- Traced firearms per 10k residents: 12.82 - Total firearms: 5,445

#23. California- Traced firearms per 10k residents: 13.85 - Total firearms: 54,338

#20. Illinois- Traced firearms per 10k residents: 15.09
- Total firearms: 19,120

#1. Washington DC- Traced firearms per 10k residents: 35.18
- Total firearms: 2,357

California with its permit to purchase laws, waiting periods, FFL required for all sales is responsible for 11 times as many as the 5 states near me and has a 1/3 higher rate by population than the worst of those, yet its legislators are screaming that criminals are getting guns from gun friendly states.

 

[pharmer]

Skewed as usual. Florida is #16, with the sheer numbers of transactions, ownership, crimes committed, that total is about “a rounding error”. Joe

 

[Racer X]

so, these are firearms (most likely) used in a crime, or including recovered during a raid? I really want to dig into this data. Like Chicago mayor, is she lying, or is there some truth to her claims of out of state guns.

 

[LVSteve]

I'm baffled by Nevada's #5 ranking. My best guess would be bangers here buying guns for bangers in CA.

 

[steelslaver]

It says traces are for various reason. I found the numbers per 10,000 interesting.

There could be a lot of reasons for Nevada's ranking. Residents go broke and sell there guns or turn criminal. Lots of people nu a gun, move somewhere then sell face to face. More crooks with no records buying there then getting caught.

I wonder what percentage of attempted traces hit a dead end.

They can only trace a gun from the manufacture to the distributor to an FFL, then FFL to FFL or first owner, from the first owner lots can happen.

IF it ever gets sold in a private sale it is harder to trace. Even a private individual taking a gun to a pawn shop or gun dealer and selling it makes it hard to trace. They have to find the original FFL to find the buyer, find the buyer to see where he sold it, then if he sold it through an FFL go to that FFL and find where it went.

Bet once they get past the very first FFL a gun went to the number of dead end roads goes way up. Owners, can't remember who they sold it to, (not a crime), kept no records (not a crime) died, moved and can't be found. owner says gun was lost(not a crime). Lost in boating accident (not a crime) Some guns especially older ones have been sold, traded or pawned numerous times.

When I was in my 20s and 30s I bought guns and traded a few, sold some to people, trade a Ruger 45 colt for a horse, etc. I have no idea what shop I traded in my any of my 3 security 6s at, my Blackhawk 357 or 44, a colt new service 45 acp, a S&W 32-20, my Remington 5mm rimfire, A Ruger semi auto 22 pistol, a CA 44 Bulldog, a model 17 or a model 29 or a model 25-3 years ago. I gave my son a model 28, a Winchester pump shotgun, a Remington 22 and a 30-06 for graduation. My ex says she has no idea where they are after he passed at 19. I alone have at least 18 guns I have no idea where they went. Most of them having left 30 or more years ago. Nobody has ever come asking either.