Gunbroker Auctions Can be Fraudulent

There is a guy now on GB describing his model 19 as a 3" when it is obviously a 2 1/2". Same guy same problem on a 66. No response to emails and of course it is "as is/no refunds". Pass, thank you very much! Another seller has a 66-1 listed as "LN unfired" with a case colored trigger...not hard chromed like it should be and like the hammer is. Funny stuff goes on.

And there are bids on these guns!
 
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i have bought several guns on the main site for gun auctions and a few more on two others. fortunately i haven't been to unhappy yet. i will not buy from someone that has several negatives and must have at least 20 positives. i have bought no return guns and been very happy,but some deals that don't pass the smell test i pass on. so far, anything i have sold has been through here and will try to keep it that way. i feel that this site has a higher than usual quality than most gun sites in that the knowledge is better and wider ranging than most. not to mention it is one of the most civil of the ones i have been to. long may it live.
 
"New" is an inexact word that can mean different things.

I know I have seen the definition of new as it pertains to purchasing an item but just because someone say something is new doesn't mean it is in perfect condition. The area which seems to be the trap is that new can also mean never used or a new bike could be new to someone else. The person has never owned the bike so the bike is considered new to her. I wanted to say a statement of condition is important as well. As a seller it is important to be honest with my clients. If I say something is new it means to me to be that it is never been used and give an accounting about the condition of the item as well. An escrow type of service is valuable in prohibiting Fraud as are credit card purchases. Pay Pal and Payment services are valuable. USPS Money orders can help prevent Fraud as well. Here is a link to an article on eBay on "How to prevent eBay scams or Fraud." The link is: How to Avoid eBay Scams and Fraud
 
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Just remember , if it sounds too good to be true , it probably is.

Look for someone with a high number of transactions , and at least 99%positive feedback. There's always bound to be at least 1 sourpuss.

Don't deal with anyone who has too many negative feedbacks.

I only have a handful of transactions , but 100% positive (A+) feedback.

Much like Ebay , some buyers/sellers didn't give me any feedback , though the deal went well.

When I buy and pay , I expect positive feedback immediately , as I have fulfilled my obligation , regardless of the eventual satisfaction or dissatisfaction with the item I'm buying , or the sellers actions.

When I sell , and someone pays me immediately , I give them a positive.

My latest deal was with Handejector himself , and it was a perfect transaction.
 
The Internet has opened up a whole new world for each and every one of us, the ability to buy sell and trade items, 15 years ago this was unheard of. As with any opportunity there will always be a few dishonest people who are willing to steal from the rest of us.
Any auction site can be an open invention to fraud or downright theft, so Gun broker is not necessarily the bad guy here. I do though have some hard and fast rules for any on-line purchase I make, firearm or not. Only do business with seller who has a "brick and mortar" location, only use sellers who have an A++ rating, the seller must offer an inspection/return period, and last but not least the seller must accept American Express credit cards.
I know I have lost out one some guns I really wanted and perhaps have paid more than was necessary to get some others, but all it takes is one BAD deal to wipe out several GOOD deals. At my age I no longer have the inculcation to have to take on one more fight with some scammer S.O.B.
 
What I find annoying is the rampant use of "LNIB" in the descriptions of pretty much everything. Then, when you start looking at the pictures, it's just an ordinary scratch-n-dent gun.
 
I've bought a few off the big box site and I haven't been displeased. But I pretty much quit because in GA we have a good site that pretty much allows me to buy and trade and sell without shipping. AND I HATE SHIPPING!
 
There are bad deals everywhere

Haris1,

I agree. There are GB deals that are unreal, as in "not real". However, there are bad deals everywhere. I recently had buys on another forum (begins with 19 and ends with 10+1). One experience was excellent, first rate dude. The other, from a "long time member", went sideways on me. Fortunately, not a lot of money was lost.
 
Haris, the 4" 27-2 nickel that I sold you about a year ago went about as smoothly as any sale that I have made. It was the only gun that I have sold that was absolutely LNIB. Haven't had one like it since. I do have an unfired 6" 29-2 in the case, but it is my first 29, and won't be for sale. I guess you have about one of everything by now!
David
 
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