GUNS AND THE NEWS

[OLDNAVYMCPO]

Newspaper and TV reporters must attend special training to learn to screw-up firearms reporting as badly as they do. There is no way IMO that they can possibly come by this trait naturally. We've all seen this countless times," the fully automatic revolver", "the 12 caliber assault shotgun", and the" 60 caliber machine-gun, M-60".

Today's El Paso Times had an Associated Press article by Emily Schmall on the biker gang shootout in Waco. In the article is the following bit of interesting technical theory. Don't know whether it's the reporter's fault or the ATF&E agent's blame, but I found it amusing. I still can't figure out what it has to do with the gunfight.

" Jennifer Cicolani, of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, noted that a semi-automatic gun can shoot more bullets in less time than a small-caliber weapon."

This single events has generated more misreporting and more LEO cluster activity than anything I've witnessed in recent time.

 

[the ringo kid]

I agree.Also,there have been no "real" reporters since Walter Cronkite left the air.

 

[federali]

Talking Heads

Don't forget all those bad guys shooting "high-caliber" weapons.

 

[Evil Dog]

the pleural of firearm is arsenal.

 

[the ringo kid]

Two boxes of ammo==Huge cache.

 

[federali]

How about that old standby: "cop-killer" bullets?"

 

[NYlakesider]

I have heard some doozies over the years but I especially like the talking head saying the cop fired his Glock duty revolver 15 times. I do not know about you guys but I would spend big money to have that gun in my safe.

 

[islamoradamark]

Two boxes of ammo==Huge cache.

thats some funny stuff but thats the truth people will believe anything and its scary that the people writing this stuff believe also

 

[wrhk33]

Don't forget the "High powered AK-47".

 

[Rustyt1953]

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQqieimwLQ[/ame]

 

[Wyatt p. Tato]

I read that article, did you also note that it appears the police may have done all the shooting. It is sure taking quite awhile to determine the ballistics evidence. Is this another of ATF / justice department operations?

 

[qkarl]

Police guns shoot justice while criminal semi automatic machine guns shoot 12 gauge armor piercing caliber bullets.

 

[STCM(SW)]

"And they found hundreds of rounds of ammo!"(A brick of .22 LR)

 

[UncleEd]

Don't forget that the press often gets its descriptions of arsenals,
huge caches of ammo etc. from the official source: THE POLICE!

1. Don't expect the police to know all that much about firearms.

2. Don't expect the police not to color an arrest in the most favorable terms for themselves.

The reporters often reflect the official line because that's their source of the information. Or do you want the reporter to be interpretive and say the police chief is full of hooey without checking other informed sources such as the guys down at the LGS?

Yes, reporters get it wrong but so do the police and politicians.

And so do we on gun forums.

 

[zzclancy]

We had an elected state representative that didn't realize you could reload a magazine.

 

[da gimp]

Walter Cronkite was the idiot who when he heard Dan Rather's footsteps coming up behind him to replace him at CBS news, desperately needed a big story to fend off Rather......

Then the Tet Offensive happened in Nam........... every Viet Cong element was put into the battles across Viet Nam, and was utterly destroyed......The few North Viet Namese regiments sent into the fray took casualties in the 90% or worse range, the other side lost men in the 10's of thousands KIA.......... In contrast, US troops, & our allies, lost men in the hundreds KIA with more that were WIA............No other victory was so complete in US military history..... the great Mariannas Turkey Shoot came close.....but Tet was even a more decisive win than that.

To hell with Uncle Walter........... he was still replaced by Dan Rather.......... though CBS ran the story too......he was shoved aside............

Despite these clear facts......with every dead VC & NVA lined up in rows.....Uncle Walter got up on the news & proclaimed that the US had suffered a terrible defeat and that the war was lost....................He did this every day & night at every opportunity & the all of the media seized his lies & ran with his version.......

 

[Rustyt1953]

We had an elected state representative that didn't realize you could reload a magazine.

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0[/ame]
This too.

 

[Rustyt1953]

We had an elected state representative that didn't realize you could reload a magazine.

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rT7TOL_V08M[/ame]

 

[italiansport]

Walter Cronkite was a closet ultraliberal who went out of his way to conceal it. This was long before the mainstream news media became as openly politicized as it is today.
Jim

 

[Road Rat]

I agree.Also,there have been no "real" reporters since Walter Cronkite left the air.

Ain't it the truth!! We had a lot of reporters back in the day. They didn't always tell the whole truth but at least you could sit and listen to them while they reported what was going on in the world.

I commented just last week to my better half that the "reporters" today are made up of a group of giggling, blonds, who all look and talk the same (and at the same time - no manners) ...................can't stand them and they DON'T report anything!!! AAAARRRGG

I refuse to even try to get news on the TV....I'm guessing they work CHEAP..

 

[dcxplant]

The solution to bad news reporting is...



...stop watching it.

News free for five years and brother i ain't goin back to watch any now. It's all bunk.

 

[LittleCooner]

Bryan Williams was actually having a cheeseburger at the Twin Peaks when this all went down, but some people will not let him have the air time to explain just what really happened. You will have to wait a few months for the real truth about those small caliber weapon that were present.

 

[pharmer]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQqieimwLQ

Hey, that tubby is on to something: "A heat seeking bullet that will cook a deer when you kill it." I would hope it is also a "smart bullet" that will field dress the deer first. Joe

 

[Glockman9mm]

Let's not forget the shoulder thing that goes up.



http://youtu.be/ospNRk2uM3U

 

[UncleEd]

The solution to bad news reporting is...



...stop watching it.

News free for five years and brother i ain't goin back to watch any now. It's all bunk.

This is an extraordinary statement.

Where do you get your info on new road construction?

Where do you get you info on the local, state political
races?

Where do you get your info in general about your
community?

How do you get your info on international events?

How do you know what across the globe in business or
geo-politics affects you?

How do you know about the latest in medical news, medical
coverage and health care and what breakthroughs have
occurred that might relate to your own personal health care?

You said "watch it" but did you never get news from anywhere but TV?

A very extraordinary statement indeed.

 

[Mickey D]

They are all maroons!

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo[/ame]

 

[Arik]

Newspaper and TV reporters must attend special training to learn to screw-up firearms reporting as badly as they do. There is no way IMO that they can possibly come by this trait naturally. We've all seen this countless times," the fully automatic revolver", "the 12 caliber assault shotgun", and the" 60 caliber machine-gun, M-60".

Today's El Paso Times had an Associated Press article by Emily Schmall on the biker gang shootout in Waco. In the article is the following bit of interesting technical theory. Don't know whether it's the reporter's fault or the ATF&E agent's blame, but I found it amusing. I still can't figure out what it has to do with the gunfight.

" Jennifer Cicolani, of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, noted that a semi-automatic gun can shoot more bullets in less time than a small-caliber weapon."

This single events has generated more misreporting and more LEO cluster activity than anything I've witnessed in recent time.

 

[the ringo kid]

Walter Cronkite was the idiot who when he heard Dan Rather's footsteps coming up behind him to replace him at CBS news, desperately needed a big story to fend off Rather......

Then the Tet Offensive happened in Nam........... every Viet Cong element was put into the battles across Viet Nam, and was utterly destroyed......The few North Viet Namese regiments sent into the fray took casualties in the 90% or worse range, the other side lost men in the 10's of thousands KIA.......... In contrast, US troops, & our allies, lost men in the hundreds KIA with more that were WIA............No other victory was so complete in US military history..... the great Mariannas Turkey Shoot came close.....but Tet was even a more decisive win than that.

To hell with Uncle Walter........... he was still replaced by Dan Rather.......... though CBS ran the story too......he was shoved aside............

Despite these clear facts......with every dead VC & NVA lined up in rows.....Uncle Walter got up on the news & proclaimed that the US had suffered a terrible defeat and that the war was lost....................He did this every day & night at every opportunity & the all of the media seized his lies & ran with his version.......

When I was making the Cronkite post--I actually thought of using Walter Wenchell instead.Cronkite came out as a stark-raving liberal shortly before he died--and my bubble was not only deflated-but completely burst. I lost respect forhim.On the upside--I didnt know he had said that about Tet.

Though I cant now find the source about rather--rather was the idiot who coined: "Baby-Killers" and on our guys. I never liked rather and en less after his famed attempt on Geo Bush--the ""Bush Papers.""

 

[da gimp]

I was in no way defending Rather...just explaining why Cronkite decided to fabricate the web of lies about Tet being a terrible military defeat for the US forces & our allies......To most policemen there are few creatures as low as most reporters..... when we find a good one we cherish them.........., generally they are considered as being as bad as if not worse than the worst politican........

 

[DWalt]

Media bias is far more obvious now than even 20 years ago, and it was bad then. I wish I could understand why. Nobody reports anything, they only editorialize and spin the news.