Had it with Apple

Think I'm sticking with Apple. The user interface is much easier to use.

This is what Apple built the empire on. As IBM found out eventually, anybody can build hardware, and a lot will do it cheaper. Software is a similar game. But it is the UI that builds loyal, to the level of a cult, customers. Tesla is using a similar business model.

Full disclosure I to have drank the Apple juice. iMac, iPad, and phone. Not to the point of crazy as it's still an iPhone 7. I squeeze that Apple to get as much juice a I can for as long as I can.
 
A while back I was having a problem with a Garmin MapSet update.
Got kind of a Condescending attitude from the Kansas Garmin guy.
Like this NM Dummy old guy don't know how to use his computer.
So I allow him to do something I don't usually allow.
Remotely control my computer.
About an hour later he say, this update won't install!
Yabol! A few minutes I look at the site and it's been taken down.
The next day it's back up.
Down load, install.
Like a Big Wheel in a Georgia Cottonfield!
 
You could wait until next year and buy a Tesla phone. :rolleyes::eek:;)

I get the humor but your not that far off. Most likely Starlink (Tesla) will be the the carrier/provider and work with any end point device. Not unlike ATT, Verizon, ect.

In the past the cell phone towers provided service in to rural and rugged areas in a much more efficient manner. One tower could cover miles and multiple towns, as opposed to running copper or fiber to hundreds of points over miles and/or mountains.

Cost effective satellite systems are the next generation.
 
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I have Android, but Google is the worst Corporate offender for collecting ALL personal data and consolidating for their AI monster, the probability machine.

The monster knows more about you than you do and runs about 95% correct in predicting your future behavior.

IMHO, AI applied to Personal Data is the scariest thing we face.
I expect to be arrested for my thoughts at some point if I make it for a few more years.
 
I have an iPhone, but I wouldn't call myself a rabid fan. I got it because I already had a Mac, it made sense to get something compatible.

My disappointment isn't so much with the iPhone (well, except they took away the headphone jack), but with the Mac. It is becoming a locked down appliance rather than a computer that I control. The handwriting was on the wall a few years back when Apple disbanded the OS X development team and assimilated them into the iOS team. OS X became macOS then.
 
I like my (overpriced) iPhone, but my wife has an Apple laptop, they simply do not hold u as well as their modern windows competitors.

"I have just about had it with Apple but I doubt if they really care. The latest update to software has split screens popping up all the time and unwanted icons at the bottom of the screen and from what I can find there is nothing you as the user can do about it and pictures and call records from my wife's phone show up on my phone and my stuff on hers. There is nothing on my phone that I care if she sees but it clutters both of our phones.
Any android users have a suggestion for a good android phone and a tablet I would appreciate you sharing with me. The phone I have now is a iPhone 11 that I bought after always using android and I bought it against my better judgment."

Comrade, do you think that you can just leave, Apple?
 
"Comrade, do you think that you can just leave, Apple?" good one Rick. My tentative plan is to pass the iPhone that I have to my wife since it will be an update for her and get an android phone for myself. I am an old retired guy and I just don't want to or need to carry Apple around in my pocket everyday, iPhones have advantages and benefits to those in the business world and workforce but not me.
 
That would be a Yes.
The reason I have an Apple IPhone Vice a Samsung is the operating system.
I much prefer the IOS over the Android.
Just a guess on my part, but I suspect what you prefer is the user interface rather than the OS. The Android OS is far more flexible and app friendly than the Apple OS. This is a double edge sword: Apple has far more control over their devices but it also limits third parties from pushing the envelope with new apps. For every Apple app, there are probably 10 or 20 Android based apps. That's good for choice but bad for consumer confusion, especially among non-tech savvy users.
 
I agree with the OP about Apple products. I have always used Android devices, all Samsung. I have a Note 20 now that hasn't given me one bit of an issue in 2 years. A few years back I bought a very expensive, compared to a PC, iMac. One month after warranty expired, hard drive crashed. That little issue costs me around $700, about half of what a good PC would cost. We had two Apple stores in my town. The next closest was an hour and a half away. One of them closed down. The other one will only work on Apple products that are still under warranty. Finally got rid of my iMac last year, bought a PC and my stress level went way down.
 
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