Has anyone tried this?

[Revolver King]

Has anyone ever run a 9mm case up into a 38 special die to see if it would resize it enough to go into a 38 special chamber? Just wondering.

 

[Amici]

For what POSSIBLE purpose?

Then again, why isn't this in the Reloading section, where it belongs?

I think you miss TWO key facts:

1. 9 mm is SMALLER than .38 Special (.355 v. .357); and

2. 9mm is a rimless cartridge.

The former means there is nothing for the .38 Special die to resize; the latter means there is nothing to hold the cartridge in the chamber.

 

[Indiana George]

Always a breath of fresh air, aren't you Amici?

Do you ever have anything positive to contribute?

 

[Revolver King]

Moon clips will hold it. the 9 mm case is wider then a 38 special case, that is why a 9mm won't fit in a 38 chamber. and I am sorry i posted this in the wrong section. I am not use to posting anything in the reloading section. I really didn't think about it as a reloading question.

 

[pinkymingeo]

Tell the truth, I think there'd be a market for rimless 38spl and 10mm autorim brass. Put me down for the 10mmAR.

 

[Skip Sackett]

Some folks asked him not to come back and play if he couldn't play nice too!

Always a breath of fresh air, aren't you Amici?

Do you ever have anything positive to contribute?

I was wondering what the purpose of doing so was to be honest.

Is it so you can shoot 9mm ammo in a regular 38spl firearm only using moon clips? I would think that you would still have to have the cylinder worked on. Much like a M625/M25 has to have to accommodate them.

Do you have a bunch of 9mm ammo and no 38spl ammo?

 

[Crazy K38]

For what POSSIBLE purpose?

Then again, why isn't this in the Reloading section, where it belongs?

I think you miss TWO key facts:

1. 9 mm is SMALLER than .38 Special (.355 v. .357); and

2. 9mm is a rimless cartridge.

The former means there is nothing for the .38 Special die to resize; the latter means there is nothing to hold the cartridge in the chamber.

Amici I am sure you have some good guy in you somewhere but you should really try to find it, you canstantly bash new guys and people with genuine questions and only end up making yourself look bad give it a rest man, and I agree with the guy who said that the cylinder will need work

 

[matsu]

Hell just get some 38au brass

 

[Amici]

Always a breath of fresh air, aren't you Amici?

Do you ever have anything positive to contribute?

Some would understand that correcting TWO significant misunderstandings IS a contribution. Obviously you aren't one of them.

The rational solution is to get a revolver set up for .38 Super, which S&W already has done, rather than bastardize 9 mm in a pointless effort to use it in a .38 Special.

That, or one of the old Ruger SA revolvers, which came with 9 mm and .357 cylinders already fitted.

 

[shovelwrench]

One of the big rules taught to me was, correct ammo for the gun. We know there are some exceptions, but, this would be rather illogical.

Different bore size (substantially different), and huge bullet jump.

Seems to me, it would come out of the barrel a little slower then it should, and you won't be able to hit a darn thing with it.

So, the question remains...WHY????

 

[shovelwrench]

you canstantly bash new guys

Whats with the post count Crazy K38????

Personally I rarely see Amici post, and I've been here, a couple years anyway.....

 

[OKFC05]

Has anyone ever run a 9mm case up into a 38 special die to see if it would resize it enough to go into a 38 special chamber? Just wondering.

Won't work; its that stinking tapered case head. First 2/3 of the case sizes fine. You can't just size down solid brass case heads in a loading press.
That's also why there is more to a 9mm revolver conversion than just machining a 38 cylinder for moonclips.

 

[HKSmith]

Another concern is that SAAMI MAP for 9mm is 35,000 psi, about 15,000 psi greater than .38 Special +P. It would be like shooting .357 Magnum in a .38 Special.

 

[LazarusLong]

Negative Ghostrider.

 

[MrPhil]

Well, you can have your 357 cylinder modified to accept moonclipped 9mm. Here's a link:

Pinnacle-Guns.com: Pinnacle High Performance Custom Gunsmithing

 

[Revolver King]

OK, It seems that I have posed more questions then answers. So here goes. I was thinking of using it in my 8 shot 627, reason is super fast reloads, I also load them with a .357 147 gr. bullet. I do this now in a converted cyl. I already have. It works quite well. I shoot in competition where speed of reload means a lot. I was just wondering if it was possible and if anyone had tried it. As for comments made by someone I was not offended, I realize there are people that just like to run off at the mouth. They don't bother me. Oh by the way, a 9mm won't fit in any 38 super revolver that I have ever owned. I tried that too.

 

[Amici]

Oh by the way, a 9mm won't fit in any 38 super revolver that I have ever owned. I tried that too.

You misunderstood my observation. My point was that, if one desired a revolver using smaller-caliber cartridges, two manufacturers had already produced same.

An off-the-wall trick might - again, MIGHT - be using resized .380 cases; however:

1. I have not checked the specs; because

2. You would have a difficult time making your PF w/a .380 case, whatever the slight improvement in re/loading time.

I suspect this won't work for the same reason 9mm doesn't, but it does give you a shorter case. Obviously moon clips would still be required.

 

[Jellybean]

If all you're looking for is a way to shoot shorter cartridges out of your moon clipped .357, the answer is simple. Find a cheap Lee .38 Short Colt Die set, then trim .38 spl cases down to any length you want up to about .762" or so. Just make sure you are careful with working up your powder charge.

 

[38-44HD45]

I understand the desire for shorter round OAL and faster reloads. Back in days of yore (love that expression, don't you?) when I first started IPSC shooting at Norman, OK, we'd have an Open match in the morning, then shoot the same match with revolvers in the afternoon. My revolver was a Ruger Security Six .357, which I loaded with Major PF loads in .38 Special cases, both for more positive ejection and easier insertion with speedloaders. I colored the bases of the cases with red magic marker, so the rounds wouldn't find their way into my lighter .38 revolvers and potentially do damage. Back then, "Major" meant something; I was running 158 gr. cast bullets at about 1150-1200 fps. Nothing special for a .357, but the pressure to do that from .38 cases was of some concern to me, even though Speer #8 said it was not a problem...

 

[Skip Sackett]

UMMMMMMM, what you said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Back then, "Major" meant something; I was running 158 gr. cast bullets at about 1150-1200 fps. Nothing special for a .357, but the pressure to do that from .38 cases was of some concern to me, even though Speer #8 said it was not a problem...

Some people just don't seem to care what words they invoke to prove a point!

The Speer #8 no less!