Has less than a hundred rounds thru it

Gotta laugh. It seems that the overwhelming majority of firearms for sale have, according to the sellers, less than a hundred rounds thru it. As Kid Rock sang "I was born at night,but not last night"

I have a dozen or so guns that have zero rounds fired through them since their factory test fire. I have one .45 that has exactly 100 rounds through it, another with 14, and yet another with 3.

I tend to document rounds fired.

That said, I wouldn't believe the 100 rounds fired either.
 
If a modern double action S&W revolver's cylinder stop is removed and its upper corners dulled the cylinder hardly acquires a drag line at all. When I'm smart enough to do that to a new revolver I use an old Case natural translucent sharpening stone. It feels as smooth as glass but does cut off some metal. Recently I handled a 25-2 that a local man wanted to sell at the range. It had no drag line. None. I pronounced it hardly fired at all. After watching quietly its owner chimed in. He'd shot it 5,000 to 6,000 rounds in bullseye competition. Opps! I felt its cylinder stop. The corners had been stoned. I should have known better. Oh well.

Unfortunately the last Model 17 that I bought new, a 17-4, I took straight to a bullseye match then shot the league with it. It has a pronounced turn line. Some times we're smart, some times not so smart.
 
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I have a Winchester M70 XTR in 308 I purchased NIB in 1978, my only range session was in the Fall of 1979-got a 1.5" group at 100 yards-with iron sights! Haven't fired it since, so it has maybe 40 rounds through it.
 
On a general note: Most important is to have your own facts straight before doubting somebody else's.

A few years ago on another forum, somebody started a thread just to make fun of a seller who offered an Ishapore Lee Enfield .308 for sale, with only a few hundred rounds through it. A few other posters joined in, wondering how that seller could have known that old rifle back until WW I, all clearly with snarkiness intending to cast aspersions on the seller's honesty and/or intelligence.

I had to point out that the joke was on them. They were ignorant of the fact that the Ishapore .308s were not, as they had assumed, converted old British .303s, but 1960s/70s new-production rifles, and many were surplused out and sold here still new and unissued in the wrapper. It was clear that the seller had one of those, and did indeed know how much he'd fired the gun.

The morale of the story: Don't make an effort to disparage other people when you don't have your own ducks in a row ;)
 
A flock of 30 to 40 Common Mergansers has been feeding out front several times a week. A few days ago after the tide rose leaving on the crest of the long gravel spit exposed they all settled on it to rest. I had all my ducks in a row! If only I'd known it was time to get on the forum and make my best effort at disparaging posts. ;)
 
When I was much younger and a gunshop was my second home I'd see older guys bringing in run of the mill weapons they'd owned for years and NEVER fired.

Being in my 20's and 30's this was hard to fathom. Why would anyone buy a Model 10, 19-66, 60 etc and not shoot them?

Now in my early 60's I understand. Let's just say I may own 1 or 2 common firearms that are still unfired after leaving the factory. I'm no collector, just don't feel the urgency to shoot every piece I own before I get home with it now.
 
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On the other hand..I have a Beretta AL390 I used for competitive Sporting Clays and know it has over 80k rounds through it.If I handed it to you,you would guess maybe a thousand rounds or so. That's why I laugh when people say they don't want to shoot a gun in fear of wearing it out. It's all about how you care for a firearm as well as the round count.
 
I have a Winchester M70 XTR in 308 I purchased NIB in 1978, my only range session was in the Fall of 1979-got a 1.5" group at 100 yards-with iron sights! Haven't fired it since, so it has maybe 40 rounds through it.

Doesn't come close to your Model 70 story, but I bought a FN manufactured 2013 Shot Show edition Featherweight chambered in 7X57 in April of 13.

Up until about 2 weeks ago it had been fired a total of 8 rounds.

I neck sized those same cases and zero'd it using a different load this time. So in close to 8 years it now has a total of 14 rounds through it.

Iron sights on a deer rifle. Those were the days! A large aperture peep is about the only type rifle irons I can still use well.
 
Ammo cost money. The estimated number of shooters who reload? Just 2%
Setting up to reload for less than a box or 2 of ammo a year is hardly worth it. Therefore about 98% of gun owners fire probably fire very few rounds. That of course does not mean 98% of guns have low round counts as reloaders are probably prone to having more guns than non reloaders. But, then I bet I have several with less than 100 rounds. 3 of them are sock drawer guns, a pristine model 37 and a pristine pre model number alloy bodyguard and a J frame 32 S&W. My 5" model 27-2 is also in that category. I have an AR that I have never ever fired yet and had it for 2 years. It just does not interest me enough, I do shoot my mini 14, my Ruger 77, a rebarreled Mohawk 600 in that same caliber all the time. I bought it new in box during a sale at a sporting goods store that was closing $400 and got them to toss in 4 magazines.

One of the guys who showed up in hunting camp this year had a 9mm he asked me to clean and check as he had not fired it in about 7 or 8 years and only a few times since he bought it. Yup, has a carry permit and a gun he never shoots. Really not uncommon. He is a great guy, but guns are not really his thing, he just rode around, cooked and enjoyed camp. Never even bought any tags.
 
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I talked to a bird hunter one time about his Superposed. He said he had it for years and had shot it right much but it was still in good shape. I asked what was right much shooting and he said probably 3 cases. Back then shells came in a case of 20 boxes so the gun had been shot about 1500 times. Larry

During my years taking my boss and her friends to her quail plantation I got to see first hand how much the guns were utilized. 5 or 6 20 ga. Citoris and a few others would be used on 8-10 trips per season. Morning hunt...lunch...afternoon hunt...dinner then relax till the next day. All guns were cleaned at the end of each day. Two shooters at a time might get off eight rounds each, then rotate shooters with different guns. After 19 years of that, the guns had a little bluing rear under the receiver but felt and shot like they were barely broken in.

After she sold the plantation I sold most of her guns at the shows here in ATL and every buyer was very happy with his purchase. It bothers me to read some posts disparaging gun show people by calling them nasty names. That is usually a tactic used to cover ones own short comings. If you don't like the gun, price or seller don't buy the gun. If you don't like gun shows in general, don't go to the shows.
 
Unfortunately, I can add to this thread.

Back around 2004, I purchased a set of Browning 1885 BPCR rifles. The one in 45-70 I had fired a few hundred rounds through in preparation for, and actual, matches. I never got the opportunity to shoot the 40-65. Unfortunately, I was in a severe MVA in May 2007 which left me permanently disabled, I had to sell those two rifles, and a few others along with a BT99 in order to keep a roof over my family's head until some disability income started coming in. (Note to the curious, I got less than 45% of the purchase price on the two Brownings.) Fortunately, the Winchester Model 70 in 270 had a slightly better outcome, it is still in my collection but unfired. Perhaps when the surgeries stop I'll be able to line up a horseback elk hunt, the reason that Winchester was purchased.
 
I could look at my reloading charts and give a pretty good estimate on number of rounds shot on some firearms, not a clue on others.

Have a blessed day,

Leon

Same here. I have only one .45 pistol and have never bought any factory ammo for it so whatever I've reloaded and don't still have is it's round count. I bought that gun 7 months ago and so far I've fired 1607 rounds through it.

On the other hand I have multiple 9mm's and have sometimes bought factory ammo so there's no way I'd know the exact round count on any of them. All I can say is that this year I've burned up 6478 rounds of reloaded 9mm total. Might have been another 1000 or so factory rounds.

I don't have trouble believing the general public often has guns that have fired 100 rounds or less. Hard as it is for us "enthusiasts" to imagine, there are lots of gun owners who don't shoot regularly.
 
Several of my guns are less than a year old and my T/C Venture in .253 that I picked up this last summer and it only has sight in shots fired (about 10 rounds). My .300 WinMag (Ive had it 8 years) has shot less than 40 rounds (still have a few rounds left in the box) as I just don't have much game around here to shoot with it other than that whitetail out in the neighbor's back 40 some 400 yards away.

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My 25-2 has had exactly 18 rounds fired through it since it was purchased new back in the 70's. We bought it as a Christmas gift for our father. He and I took it to the range and fired 18 rounds through it, he cleaned it and put it away. I inherited it when he passed away. It is going to be passed along to my now 7 year old grandson. I have no intentions of ever firing it again.
 
I'm one of the guilty guys. I have a Colt SAA that I bought new in the box some years back. I ran a couple of cylinders of .45 long Colt through it and cleaned it and put it back in the box. It's just too pretty to chance scratching.
 
I would call my brother a typical non-enthusiast handgun owner. 25+ years ago he bought a Ruger .40 S&W, his only centerfire handgun. During that time he has fired less than 50 rounds through it.

On the other hand I do not own a gun that hasn't had hundreds if not thousands of rounds through them, no safe queens here.

When I buy a used handgun I don't concern myself with the round count, I look at condition.
 
Actually I believe that there are lots of guns out there with very low round counts. Novice buys a hand gun and a box of ammo. goes out and surprise,firstt it is hard to hit anything, next because in America bigger is better, the recoil is painful. Not very exciting watching dust fly a ft from where the can is. Hey the ammo cost $40 a box. Back in the drawer. Things like 500s, model 329s, J frame 357. light weight semi autos that the slide movement startles the novice all lose their appeal fast. Heck plenty of them get purchased for "self protection" and never even get fired. Just stuck in a desk or drawer.

I got a buddy who buys stuff and then has buyers remorse due to all kinds of reason. I got three guns off of him after he shot them a few times cause he changed his mind. He's a good buddy.
 
When I sell a gun there is no such thing as new in box or never fired. I may buy them that way but I buy them shoot, not save for somebody else.
 
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