tripledipper
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What? No First Communion pictures of the perp? The asinine comments from the relatives of these savages should never be quoted to begin with. Our liberal media at work.
" . . . . . . he was trying to better himself." . . . . . "not a monster."
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jag312
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The only thing I want to say is:
BURN IN HELL, LOVELLE
BURN IN HELL, LOVELLE
You should hear the comments on local talk radio from those in sympathy with the perp...
scary, ugly and so WRONG.
scary, ugly and so WRONG.
ParadiseRoad
Member
...that would make a good bumper sticker...
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Snapping Twig
Member
Turns out this POS was a multiple rapist, including underage girls. DNA has linked him to several recent (previously) unsolved cases.
The fact that he was on the street is a testament to our legal system.
Now they want to turn this into an assault weapon ban, not a criminal control issue.
The left is INSANE!
The fact that he was on the street is a testament to our legal system.
Now they want to turn this into an assault weapon ban, not a criminal control issue.
The left is INSANE!
Spotteddog
Member
Of course they are S/T.
They read their own press, after all?
They read their own press, after all?
rburg
Member
Only because no one else is taking the other side, I guess I need to.
Remember the old saying "A face only a mother could love?" Its that unconditional love mothers have for their worthless offspring that sometimes rehabilitates them. Clearly it didn't work here, but I don't fault relatives for having grief. Yes, maybe they remember the dirtbag as a cute young kid. Maybe when he was around family he was pleasant and comforting. Surely they didn't see his bad side, the one coming out now.
Kids, yours, mine and those we've never met do a good job of covering their failings. Its very possible the perp here fit that mold. When with family and on his good behavior, he could have been a nice guy. Maybe complimented his mother and was nice to the nieces and nephews. Helped out around the house without being asked, etc. Thats how they remember him, not as the monster he really was. From that view, maybe all they're doing is dealing with their grief and putting him in the best possible light they can. Its not nice to speak ill of the dead.
Basically this country is overcome with political correctness. Its not getting any better, either. Parole boards are insulated from the consequences of their acts. They tend to showcase the success stories of letting someone out early. I'm not even so short sighted to think the success stories don't outnumber the miserable failures.
The problem being we can't afford to look at raw numbers. Its not that 70 out of 100 (a gross over estimation) won't re-offend, its not even that the other 29 of the 30 will do minor offenses. Its Society needs to be protected from that one complete monster. I have no idea how we expect the parole board to pick that guy out, either.
Most of us don't want to pay higher taxes. Particularly to house our worst criminals. And our crooked politicians resist putting that kind of thing on the ballot, with the funds directed toward prisons. They'd rather make it money they can allocate as they see fit (meaning waste where they want.)
So to take poor, misunderstood Lavelle's side of this, and the parole board's side, just for a second, I don't think his final blaze of glory was predictable. No one knew he'd been out romancing the uncooperative ladies. Nor did they know he would snap and begin shooting cops. The first real indication was when he did the ugly tasks.
You can't incarcerate everyone who has a minor transgression for life. I'd guess most of us here filched a watermelon in our youthful exuberance. Some maybe worse. But no one is advocating the death sentence for such offenses. We've built on so many levels of chances for the offenders, that some of the really bad apples get out. Its pretty easy in hindsight to say we should have kept him in the cookie jar for his full sentence. In fact, we're all saying so now. But the high cost of keeping someone like that locked up when he wasn't showing signs of how he'd turn out doesn't make sense, either.
Remember the old saying "A face only a mother could love?" Its that unconditional love mothers have for their worthless offspring that sometimes rehabilitates them. Clearly it didn't work here, but I don't fault relatives for having grief. Yes, maybe they remember the dirtbag as a cute young kid. Maybe when he was around family he was pleasant and comforting. Surely they didn't see his bad side, the one coming out now.
Kids, yours, mine and those we've never met do a good job of covering their failings. Its very possible the perp here fit that mold. When with family and on his good behavior, he could have been a nice guy. Maybe complimented his mother and was nice to the nieces and nephews. Helped out around the house without being asked, etc. Thats how they remember him, not as the monster he really was. From that view, maybe all they're doing is dealing with their grief and putting him in the best possible light they can. Its not nice to speak ill of the dead.
Basically this country is overcome with political correctness. Its not getting any better, either. Parole boards are insulated from the consequences of their acts. They tend to showcase the success stories of letting someone out early. I'm not even so short sighted to think the success stories don't outnumber the miserable failures.
The problem being we can't afford to look at raw numbers. Its not that 70 out of 100 (a gross over estimation) won't re-offend, its not even that the other 29 of the 30 will do minor offenses. Its Society needs to be protected from that one complete monster. I have no idea how we expect the parole board to pick that guy out, either.
Most of us don't want to pay higher taxes. Particularly to house our worst criminals. And our crooked politicians resist putting that kind of thing on the ballot, with the funds directed toward prisons. They'd rather make it money they can allocate as they see fit (meaning waste where they want.)
So to take poor, misunderstood Lavelle's side of this, and the parole board's side, just for a second, I don't think his final blaze of glory was predictable. No one knew he'd been out romancing the uncooperative ladies. Nor did they know he would snap and begin shooting cops. The first real indication was when he did the ugly tasks.
You can't incarcerate everyone who has a minor transgression for life. I'd guess most of us here filched a watermelon in our youthful exuberance. Some maybe worse. But no one is advocating the death sentence for such offenses. We've built on so many levels of chances for the offenders, that some of the really bad apples get out. Its pretty easy in hindsight to say we should have kept him in the cookie jar for his full sentence. In fact, we're all saying so now. But the high cost of keeping someone like that locked up when he wasn't showing signs of how he'd turn out doesn't make sense, either.
OP
Dick, I was agreeing with you until I got to the part I quoted. In fact, I think Mixon's actions were pretty predictable; maybe not the multiple murders and national media attention, but certainly that he would again commit violent crimes to the detriment of society. I think he showed every sign of how he would turn out. This person wasn't guilty of a "minor transgression"--he was guilty of multiple felonies, several of them of a violent nature. Here is his record:
http://apnews.myway.com/articl...90325/D9750TN80.html
"Mixon was a high school dropout whose first felony charge came soon after he turned 18. He was arrested in 2000 with crack cocaine and marijuana, and got 30 days after a no-contest plea to the cocaine charge, court records show.
Just over a year later, in 2001, he was arrested again for stealing six PlayStation video game consoles from a Target store and a nearby Toys R Us. That meant another 30 days in county jail.
Mixon applied for a work furlough program through the Alameda County Sheriff's department in 2001 but was turned down. "Applicants' past case of violence could pose a threat to the program, staff and community," records documenting the denial state.
In 2002, he landed six years in state prison for assault with a firearm. Paroled in 2007, he was brought in again in February 2008 as a suspect in an Alameda County murder. He was not charged for lack of evidence, but got another nine months in state prison for parole violations involving identity theft, forgery, fraud, grand theft and other charges. He was released in November 2008, according to state records."
I agree with all you said, though, about how he could have been a different person around his family. I don't hate his folks for trying to find something good to say about him. I am glad he is removed from society, but I can't rejoice at the violent death of any individual. I am glad he is gone, and I wish he had not done the violent deeds he did.
jag312
Member
A little more information about the rape that he has been identified to; he kidnapped a 12 year old girl at gun point and raped her. I have nothing more to say without using inappropriate language.
godlessgael
Member
I know there are a couple of other Bay Area people on this board, and it is truly a sad day. The wife and I recently moved to the East Bay from San Francisco, and I know the community is reeling from this. I was actually surprised that the people usually supporting these individuals has come together and held a vigil for the cop. Hopefully the deaths of the officers wont be completely in vain if it can stem even some of the violence in this area. Of course, liberal San Francisco has already jumped to wanting to ban all guns: guns are bad.
cmort666
Member
If Mixon wasn't a monster, the term simply has no meaning. Thief, robber, rapist, child molestor, and finally murderer, to call him anything else is to try to redefine the word fish to exclude carp, trout and salmon.
I care no more for the feelings of his family about him than I do for the feelings of the families of Joachim Peiper, Ed Gein or "Little Nicky" Scarfo. Their apparent comments about Mixon are indicative in part of WHY he became a monster. "Unconditional love" for a monster teaches the monster that there are no absolute down sides to BEING a monster.
When the family stands by a monster, no matter what, the monster will continue to be a monster until somebody else solves the local monster problem.
Yeah, everybody's "somebody's child", including Ottis Toole, and Uday and Qusay Hussein. If you can't control your "child", then somebody else is going to do it, whether it takes a bullet or a TOW missle.
I care no more for the feelings of his family about him than I do for the feelings of the families of Joachim Peiper, Ed Gein or "Little Nicky" Scarfo. Their apparent comments about Mixon are indicative in part of WHY he became a monster. "Unconditional love" for a monster teaches the monster that there are no absolute down sides to BEING a monster.
When the family stands by a monster, no matter what, the monster will continue to be a monster until somebody else solves the local monster problem.
Yeah, everybody's "somebody's child", including Ottis Toole, and Uday and Qusay Hussein. If you can't control your "child", then somebody else is going to do it, whether it takes a bullet or a TOW missle.
