Help for Haiti, who is giving???

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One way to support the people in the area without getting the aid drained off into private bank accounts is to support the Albert Schweitzer hospital. They have been in Haiti for about 50 years and are the only functioning hospital in the region at this time. Naturally, they are swamped...

Hopital Albert Schweitzer Haiti

Lee
 
Mathew 25

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
 
sipowicz said:
I agree about the corruption but you can send money directly to relief efforts run by the US...such as the red cross or salavation army. For me, politics go out the window when devastated children are in need of food water and shelter.....you only have to turn on your tap to know how truly lucky we are...
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I agree with Sip here. Despite the corruption and long-standing problems there, we can still REALLY help by donating to the RC or SA. I did this during the Katrina disaster and felt that it had value. One can't observe the situation in Haiti and not be moved to some action.
IMHO, I would NOT, however, donate anything to a UN-related organization, just based on their philosophy and my concern about where the money would actually go.
My concern is that within another week, the conditions will deteriorate into total chaos without some water, food, and troops to control things. Unless some kind of distribution mechanism appears as well, any trace of civilization will disappear in this country. Nine million people live there! God help them.
 
I used to have respect for Pat Robertson but lately he has gone completely off the reservation. Sort of like Jimmy Carter they both need to put their mouths in neutral. Along with some others we could speak of.
 
I've already taken down a case of canned goods to the local Salvation Army. It will be picked up by the Red Cross and delivered by them. There is no way I am contributing cash.

At first I felt that we do need the help right here at home first, but this disaster is beyond the pale. I'll help where I can.
 
beemerphile said:
Then we'll send troops to do what troops are not meant to do.
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So our military is only meant to kill people? Don't we use the military in our own Natural Disasters? I bet if given the chance, many soldiers would rather go and help hand out food and water to people rather than shoot at them. And not to mention humanitarian efforts by our troops shows the world what kind of country we are.
 
I almost always resist the temptation to go Biblical, but:

From those to whom much is given, much is expected. (Luke 12:48)

I have no problem as a US citizen helping out a destroyed community in some other country. I do not resent, and sense no imbalance in the fact, that this now-destroyed community sent no aid to New Orleans after Katrina. My secular corollary to Luke's notion is, "From those to whom nothing is given, nothing is expected." I just don't understand the kind of moral accountancy that relieves one of a current obligation because an earlier, more local tragedy generated no assistance from those who were unable to offer it.

I'm in. I will contribute through the Salvation Army, which is my way of paying tribute to some Canadian ancestors who were leaders in the organization over a century ago.

Gotta ask myself: Do I really need another gun at a time when the money could buy medical supplies or food for kids that need it? In the grand scheme of things, I am probably not overly generous. But I am not so diminished of spirit that I would let children's needs go unaddressed because I spotted another nice five-screw K-22.

This is an easy call at the moment because this year I can afford it. Next year my situation may be different, but I'll deal with that when and if it happens. Maybe next year there will be neither contributions nor new guns. But right now, today, I'll skip the next K-22 in favor of the Haitians.
 
I don't have any questions about what happens to the money I give to the Salvation Army or my local church. I know that money will be well spent. I am a Deacon in a small, conservative, God-fearing, washed-in-the-blood country Southern Baptist Church. We have about 60 members, predominately active or retired public school teachers. We donated over $10,000 to Southern Baptist Disaster Relief for Katrina and the Tsunami. Basically, when something like this happens, we empty our treasury, earmarking the funds for the disaster at hand, which the SBC allows. This is in addition to our regular Mission support and ministries.

I asked the Church Treasurer yesterday how much money we had in the operating account. He said we had eight or nine thousand. He knew where I was going with the question. He said, "You know, we never missed a dime of the money we sent for the Tsunami and Hurricane relief." I expect we will vote Sunday to send all the money we have on hand to the SBC relief agency, just holding back enough to pay the gas and light bills for the next couple of months.
 
Been working on donations here and I have a suggestion based on what we are seeing so far. Many people are donating canned goods, which is great, but if you have a choice the kind with the pull tab opening tops are best in this scenario.

Canned goods without a way to get them open can be frustrating for people who may have few to no tools at their disposal.

Hopefully the military or other organization has come up with quantities of the P-38 openers to distribute. We have seen some donations of canned goods where a p-38 was duct taped to each can.
 
Having been through a natural disaster and needing essentials like fresh water, I can tell you that the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army were there when I needed them. They get some of my money and goods all the time, and will get a little more for these poor souls in Haiti. Redlevel reminded me what my Lord's opinion is on the subject, and that is good enough for me.
 
The Salvation Army fed me Thanksgiving dinner in 1967.They will get my money now,as they get it Thanksgiving,Christmas,etc.I don't need another gun.
 
Aid groups like the Salvation Army and Catholic Relief Services won't be giving cash to anyone. Your donations are used to buy needed food, water, medical supplies and shelter stuff, and to transport it to the scene and to have the means to distribute it directly to those in need.

93% of the money Catholic Relief Services gets is used to directly provide aid. About 3% goes to administrative overhead and 4% for fundraising to generate more aid. Groups like this have experienced aid people in place already and others prepared to go there to do the work.

Catholic Relief Services
P.O. Box 17090
Baltimore, MD 21203-7090

I am not a Catholic, my church has already sent aid and is sending more, but I give to CRS and Salvation Army too because they have an excellent track record of getting the most bang for your buck.

50% of the people in Haiti are children. They haven't done anything to deserve our emnity.
 
I PERSONNALY THINK THAT OBAMA SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO THROW OUR MONEY DOWN A CESSPOOL WITHOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAYING SO . DID THEY JUST KICK THE PRINTING PRESS INTO OVERDRIVE OR GET ANOTHER LOAN FROM CHINA? MILITARY AND OTHER BUDGETS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY CONGRESS WHAT GIVES HIM THE RIGHT TO THROW AWAY A 100 MILLION AND HE SAID THAT IS JUST FOR STARTERS.
 
I gave through the American Red Cross. I agree that it is important to choose carefully a trustworthy charity.

You don't help people in a situation like this because you expect them to say "thank you," or give you something back in return. You help because as a human being it is the right thing to do.

Redlevel, thanks for the Mathew verses. I haven't read my Bible in a very long time. I'm not a capital "C" Christian, but I believe in living my life in a christian way. It's a good idea to check back on the instructions now and then!
 
Haiti is Haiti, will it change probably not. does that mean we want those kids to starve or die of disease I don't think so. Obama has really nothing to do with it. Look at some of the rat holes he has sent Billions to. Americans are by nature generous people as we should be. Haiti is just a example of what happens when the prosperous nations just don't give a damn. We have to help why? because that is the difference we are known for. Unlike some other very prosperous nations that just don't care. Are we to lower ourselves to their level or do the Christian thing and give all the help we can. For those who think like pat Robertson let me say this. I think there are a lot more nations deserving of Gods wrath than that poor as poor can be country. How about Iran just for starters. Heck Obama just made a closed door deal to exempt the union Cadillac health care plan from the special tax on Cadillac plans, other will have to pay for. Why? I'll tell you why, he was losing some of his special interest groups because they didn't like to pay the tax the rest of us will pay, one way or another. So he sends a Billion to Haiti, so what? the problem might just be who is going to cash that check. We will never change the minds of the radical terrorist, as we can't even change the minds of our own far right liberals. That doesn't mean we should stop trying. Evil only triumphs when good men turn their heads. Maybe just maybe our generosity will change some now kids minds, that in eight to ten years when everybody is taking pot shots at us stand up and say" Hay those Americans saved my life when disaster struck" So I'll give as long as we are sure the people are getting the aid and not that corrupt degenerate government they have. We don't have to have another Somalia where lack of back bone lead to a disaster. I'm sure those Marines down there are a hell of a lot happier giving aid to kids than shooting their parents. One way or another it will be one of the two. We have no stomach for another banana war. Ask Palosie and Reid they would rather give the money to Nebraska or the unions or to Louisiana to buy votes. I personally would rather buy friends than votes. We need to take a hard look at ourselves and ask why all this is happening. Could it be we have had it to soft, our youth don't know what hard times are. Give the money to good organizations that will get the help to those that need it, and then say as many on this forum have said, I don't need another gun right now. I can give up a night out, I can save some lives. It is the American way, it is the Christian way. If that degenerate Dictator gets in the way SHOOT HIM that is not a hard choice is it? Collectively we voted the messiah from Chicago in, now one way or another we have to live with it. but we don't have to lower our standards to his apologetic cow towing to ever half baked potentate in the mid east. At least this time it is a humanitarian project that somebody needs to do. So as usual it will be us.
 
One of the on the ground reporters for Fox said this was the worst loss of human life that he'd ever seen, the stench of death hanging over Haiti like a cloud, bodies all over the place.
This is a horrible event taking place. God help the Haitians even if some won't.
 
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