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Help identifying a Model 29
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Jim Watson
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A "-0"
A "-0"
I think that is right on the border line of -1 so it is a tough call IMHO
Hope it still has the Cokes for you
Hope it still has the Cokes for you
Whatever engineering and/or product change (i.e. dash number) it is should be stamped on the frame.
I would guess the serial number you refer to is a Model 29 but could be a 29-1.
A Model number starts off solely as the model number alone. There is not a dash-0 (dash zero) after it. With each subsequent engineering and/or production change an ascending numerical suffix designation will be given. For example:
29
29-1
29-2
29-3
etcetera
Only for clarity will people refer to a S&W as a dash-0. There will not be a dash-0 stamped on the frame however there are enough anomalies in S&W manufacturing and nomenclature I wouldn't be surprised if someone produces some model of a S&W stamped dash-0.
Prior to 1957 the Model 29 was referred to as The .44 Magnum.
Model 29 (no-dash) was circa 1957 - 1962 and started with serial # S179000.
Model 29-1 was circa 1962 for about 1 year and differs from the Model 29 (no dash) with left hand extractor rod thread and the SCSW states this change occurred at approximately serial # S220000.
One of the more important attributes you will want to clarify with that gun is if it has "Cokes", i.e. Coke grips. If you're not sure what those are you will need to educate yourself.
I would guess the serial number you refer to is a Model 29 but could be a 29-1.
A Model number starts off solely as the model number alone. There is not a dash-0 (dash zero) after it. With each subsequent engineering and/or production change an ascending numerical suffix designation will be given. For example:
29
29-1
29-2
29-3
etcetera
Only for clarity will people refer to a S&W as a dash-0. There will not be a dash-0 stamped on the frame however there are enough anomalies in S&W manufacturing and nomenclature I wouldn't be surprised if someone produces some model of a S&W stamped dash-0.
Prior to 1957 the Model 29 was referred to as The .44 Magnum.
Model 29 (no-dash) was circa 1957 - 1962 and started with serial # S179000.
Model 29-1 was circa 1962 for about 1 year and differs from the Model 29 (no dash) with left hand extractor rod thread and the SCSW states this change occurred at approximately serial # S220000.
One of the more important attributes you will want to clarify with that gun is if it has "Cokes", i.e. Coke grips. If you're not sure what those are you will need to educate yourself.
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I gather from this that you don't have the gun in hand, or available to examine?
It is more likely stamped MOD 29 than 29-1, the latter being much less common. Looking at the gun will tell you for certain.
Off topic, I have seen two S & W revolvers stamped -0 - the 627-0 and (for unclear reasons) a few 57-0s. Perhaps the latter were converted from model 29-2 frames and overstamped, not sure.
It is more likely stamped MOD 29 than 29-1, the latter being much less common. Looking at the gun will tell you for certain.
Off topic, I have seen two S & W revolvers stamped -0 - the 627-0 and (for unclear reasons) a few 57-0s. Perhaps the latter were converted from model 29-2 frames and overstamped, not sure.
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Those are Pachmayr Presentation rubber stocks.
The price is fair to a steal, depending on the condition, even without the original stocks.
Guess we can't find out what model number is stamped?
The price is fair to a steal, depending on the condition, even without the original stocks.
Guess we can't find out what model number is stamped?
Art Doc
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The correct original stocks will sell for $600 or more. That's why they are often missing, as on this gun.
Serial number ? ? ?
Your gun can not be a -3! These were introduced in 1983 and would have had an "N" serial prefix. The -1 change was introduced in Nov 1960 @ approx. S220xxx, However, my data base shows -1 guns in the S217xxx, S218xxx, and S219xxx serial number range and none of them left the factory before mid 1962. Is everyone confused yet? The confusion comes from us collectors trying to put our guns in numerical order by serial number along with all the engineering changes! S&W IGNORED the serial number when manufacturing, assembling, storing, and shipping these collectors pieces! A factory letter MIGHT give you the answer you are looking for!
jcelect
Your gun can not be a -3! These were introduced in 1983 and would have had an "N" serial prefix. The -1 change was introduced in Nov 1960 @ approx. S220xxx, However, my data base shows -1 guns in the S217xxx, S218xxx, and S219xxx serial number range and none of them left the factory before mid 1962. Is everyone confused yet? The confusion comes from us collectors trying to put our guns in numerical order by serial number along with all the engineering changes! S&W IGNORED the serial number when manufacturing, assembling, storing, and shipping these collectors pieces! A factory letter MIGHT give you the answer you are looking for!
jcelect
Jim Watson
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Yes, "-0" is shorthand for a baseline gun with no engineering changes after 1957.
According to SCSW most though not all -0 are four screw, -1 are three screw... mostly.
The other change was in the extractor rod thread, -1 introduced the left hand thread which made it self tightening while shooting.
According to SCSW most though not all -0 are four screw, -1 are three screw... mostly.
The other change was in the extractor rod thread, -1 introduced the left hand thread which made it self tightening while shooting.
gkitch
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We need more pictures to help you, although it sounds like a decent buy if the condition is sound. CONDITION MATTERS. Too many people attempt to ignore the wear and tear on a gun when pricing.
On the inside of the crane is the model number. If it says "29-1" it will be worth more than a more common "Mod 29".
On the inside of the crane is the model number. If it says "29-1" it will be worth more than a more common "Mod 29".
Most likely, the revolver is stamped MOD-29 in the yoke cut and has a 4-screw frame.
Bill
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