otasan56
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S&W N frame
That looks like an old 4-inch Model 28 Highway Patrolman.
That looks like an old 4-inch Model 28 Highway Patrolman.
Help Identifying old .357 magnum revolver
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ParadiseRoad
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...kinda looks like an N frame to me...
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Great post! Excellent firearms! Keep them forever.
petewoodland
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I have RM Reg. No. 1070 and the factory letter indicates that it did, indeed, ship in May 1936. Congratulations on having two really great pieces there!
After WW II, the .357 Magnum was changed to a short action revolver. Many folks, peace officers and others, wanted a .357, but it was a bit pricey. S&W made the Highway Patrolman by eliminating the checkered top strap and barrel rib, confining the barrel length options to two-4" and 6", and using a matte blue finish instead of the high polish blue and nickel finishes.
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Mr. Green, I just finished reading the first Jelly Bryce book on Amazon, and I think you might enjoy it. I never knew OK lawmen were so active in tracking down the biggest bad guys in the country, during the 30's.
We might add that the author of that book, which I just finished as well, is a member of the forum, Mike Conti, and that he has a lot of Oklahoma Lawman information at his disposal.
Lee Jarrett, (handejector here on the forum), our host on the forum, has a great post which you might want to check out as well, regarding one of Jelly Bryce's fellow OK Lawmen contemporaries and freinds, Jerry Campbell, and some of his handguns and badges and so forth.
Best Regards, Les
Lee Jarrett, (handejector here on the forum), our host on the forum, has a great post which you might want to check out as well, regarding one of Jelly Bryce's fellow OK Lawmen contemporaries and freinds, Jerry Campbell, and some of his handguns and badges and so forth.
Best Regards, Les
Leatherhead23
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Wow! Great heirlooms! Congratulations!..Don't EVER sell them!
Lil off topic but I had a paperback book about Gangsters of the '30's. I loaned it to someone and has since been missing. The book included a lot of pics of these gangsters and the thing that was obvious to me was that they liked their pictures taken with their guns and cars. Another common observation was that the vast majority of license plates were Oklahoma.
Now back on track, nice pair of revolvers there.
TfflHndn
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The Blue Book of Gun Values, 36th ed., shows on p. 1814 a .38 M&P, 4th change, as having a serial number range that includes the one on your snubby. It lists one in 80% condition at a value of $700, and in 90% condition it is valued at $850. It notes that a premium applies to a 2" variation with a factory letter, but does not state what the premium is.
For the Registered Magnum, at page 1818 the Blue Book shows 80 and 90% values at $4,400 and $5,440, respectively, with a premium of $1,300 for "rare registration certificate" and 20% for non-standard barrel lengths. Common barrel lengths include 3.5, 4, 5, 6.5 and 8.75 inch lengths. Measure yours to be sure.
Note that I'm not vouching for any particular condition for your guns, and BB values are a starting point; market values can vary widely by region. And I'm going off comments above on identifying the snubby. In any event, you have two very nice guns there, and the personal connection probably adds value that goes beyond selling them for money, but if you are going to insure them you have an idea how much they are "worth" for replacement cost purposes. Thanks for sharing your guns with the rest of us.
For the Registered Magnum, at page 1818 the Blue Book shows 80 and 90% values at $4,400 and $5,440, respectively, with a premium of $1,300 for "rare registration certificate" and 20% for non-standard barrel lengths. Common barrel lengths include 3.5, 4, 5, 6.5 and 8.75 inch lengths. Measure yours to be sure.
Note that I'm not vouching for any particular condition for your guns, and BB values are a starting point; market values can vary widely by region. And I'm going off comments above on identifying the snubby. In any event, you have two very nice guns there, and the personal connection probably adds value that goes beyond selling them for money, but if you are going to insure them you have an idea how much they are "worth" for replacement cost purposes. Thanks for sharing your guns with the rest of us.
DWalt
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Blue Book values are essentially worthless for guns of this type, and yours would bring far more.
A more realistic estimate would be prices actually realized on the GunBroker internet auction site for similar pieces.
A more realistic estimate would be prices actually realized on the GunBroker internet auction site for similar pieces.
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What a pair of beautiful handguns!
I agree, letter them and never sell them!
Sorry, it took a while for me to comment, it took a while for me to wipe the drool off my keyboard.
I agree, letter them and never sell them!
Sorry, it took a while for me to comment, it took a while for me to wipe the drool off my keyboard.
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Such great advice!
And I also wish I had known your Grandfather, he sounds as if he was very knowledgeable, and had great taste in guns!
29aholic
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I use the Blue Book to buy and Gunbroker to sell. I would be happy to give you the 90% value of $6,290.00 for that pair 
otasan56
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From one of the photos, I can see that the top strap is checkered. That would make this revolver an N frame S&W Model 27. I believe that the short-barrel model was a 3.5-inch barrel.
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Lesson learned from this Thread, There are still treasures out there., that are held in private hands. And this Forum gives good and truthful advice.
Nice to see no vultures circling in the sky. Good group. Best
Nice to see no vultures circling in the sky. Good group. Best
