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Following the identify-my-gun formatting guide, along with furnishing additional photos, would probably go a long way in assisting with identification. Looks to be a lovely piece!
thundertrap
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Looks like a triple lock, 44 hand ejector 1st model(I originally thought 3rd because of the ejector shroud, didn’t realize the first model did too)
I’m not an expert on these so I’m really just guessing here.... refinished at some point
Serial number could be hiding in several places on those old guns, on the back of the ejector star, inside the crane facing the front of the cylinder.... looks like the refinish covered up or diminished/destroyed the a lot of the original markings
I’m not an expert on these so I’m really just guessing here.... refinished at some point
Serial number could be hiding in several places on those old guns, on the back of the ejector star, inside the crane facing the front of the cylinder.... looks like the refinish covered up or diminished/destroyed the a lot of the original markings
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Looks like a triple lock refinished
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bamabiker
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The 4 numbers on the butt is the serial number.
This number is used to date S&Ws. You've started this thread in the wrong section and one of the mods will probably move to the right one.
This number is used to date S&Ws. You've started this thread in the wrong section and one of the mods will probably move to the right one.
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SAFireman
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Yup, Triple lock. Had at least one refinish in it's life. Probably a dandy shooter 
Welcome! This is a .44 Hand Ejector 1st model, also called the Triple Lock due to the cylinder locking points at the front, rear and yoke.
The serial number is on the bottom of the grip frame. 7657 puts its production date (in theory) about halfway through the 13,753 made between 1907 and 1915, but it's official age is the sales or ship date, which was no earlier than 1911 and possibly quite a bit later. S & W did not sell guns in numerical order. Enjoy!
The serial number is on the bottom of the grip frame. 7657 puts its production date (in theory) about halfway through the 13,753 made between 1907 and 1915, but it's official age is the sales or ship date, which was no earlier than 1911 and possibly quite a bit later. S & W did not sell guns in numerical order. Enjoy!
Most likely made prior to 1910 although it's wearing incorrect grips from post-1968.
Hard to pin down the ship date without a letter from SWHF, but its definitely a Triple Lock that's been refinished. S&W never nickel plated the hammer or trigger.
Still, the Triple Locks are getting hard to find in any condition, and the prices are climbing accordingly. You've got a nice piece of family history!
Still, the Triple Locks are getting hard to find in any condition, and the prices are climbing accordingly. You've got a nice piece of family history!
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Year 1911 production started at SN 7050 and went to 9100. However, yours could have shipped up to 2-3 years after 1911. For example, SN 8785 (a TL which was also manufactured in 1911) shipped in 3/1914. Despite its shortcomings, many would like to have a good TL in less than collectible condition as a shooter.
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Where did the pictures go?
Hondo44
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Yeah, what happened to the photos???
Hondo44
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Mpcawk,
SERIAL # LOCATIONS: To confirm all parts are original, one can check for the 6 (or 7 - Triple Lock models only) matching serial # locations for fixed sight pre war Hand Ejectors and all post war Hand Ejectors thru ~1956 and a few as much as 3 years later.
NOTE: Observing serial #s with accuracy or even existence, especially on penciled stocks, requires magnification, bright light, and an attitude that it is there!
1. Grip frame butt (prefixed by a letter(s) following WWII) - or fore strap on I frame Regulation Police models and single shots with grips that cover the butt
2. Barrel - bottom of barrel or in extractor shroud, (Triple locks have tiny #s stamped in front end of the shroud; sideways/vertical if over 3 numerical digits, otherwise horizontal).
3. Yoke - on rear face only visible thru a chamber with a flashlight (except the .32 Model 1896 and no doubt a few others)
4. Extractor star - backside
5. Cylinder - rear face
6. Right stock only - on back, scratched or penciled depending on vintage and stock material, stamped after 1929, (except most post war target grips because individual fitting not required.)
7. .44 TL models only: rear side of middle lock cam plate (Triple Lock models only)
SERIAL # LOCATIONS: To confirm all parts are original, one can check for the 6 (or 7 - Triple Lock models only) matching serial # locations for fixed sight pre war Hand Ejectors and all post war Hand Ejectors thru ~1956 and a few as much as 3 years later.
NOTE: Observing serial #s with accuracy or even existence, especially on penciled stocks, requires magnification, bright light, and an attitude that it is there!
1. Grip frame butt (prefixed by a letter(s) following WWII) - or fore strap on I frame Regulation Police models and single shots with grips that cover the butt
2. Barrel - bottom of barrel or in extractor shroud, (Triple locks have tiny #s stamped in front end of the shroud; sideways/vertical if over 3 numerical digits, otherwise horizontal).
3. Yoke - on rear face only visible thru a chamber with a flashlight (except the .32 Model 1896 and no doubt a few others)
4. Extractor star - backside
5. Cylinder - rear face
6. Right stock only - on back, scratched or penciled depending on vintage and stock material, stamped after 1929, (except most post war target grips because individual fitting not required.)
7. .44 TL models only: rear side of middle lock cam plate (Triple Lock models only)
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