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My choice would be the 627
help me decide? 686+ or 627?
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oysterhead
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I faced the same choice, and just pulled the trigger on a 686-4 Plus with a 4" barrel.
Why? Cost and availability. With the 686 I could find a very desirable model for $650 OTD. I was looking at $1k OTD for a 627 and that's for an "off the shelf" new model. Seems 627s are caught up in the craze.
I'll still drool over the 627s...if I happen to find a good deal on a sweet one, who knows maybe Ill end up with both.
Why? Cost and availability. With the 686 I could find a very desirable model for $650 OTD. I was looking at $1k OTD for a 627 and that's for an "off the shelf" new model. Seems 627s are caught up in the craze.
I'll still drool over the 627s...if I happen to find a good deal on a sweet one, who knows maybe Ill end up with both.
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I have the 627 PC 8 shot with moon clips. I carry my 625 PC because it works a whole lot better with moon clips.
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My vote would be 686+... I have one in 3", 4", and 6" so you can tell I'm fond of them! The 627 is on my watch list though if I can ever find a semi-decent deal on one.
I have a 686
I have a 686 with a 6" barrel and it has more than enough heft for me, it's a tad heavy with the 6" barrel and full under lug it's a little nose heavy but handles real well. I think a 27 series would be a little too heavy for me and my family. I LOVE the way the 686 shoots and feels (The Pachmeyer grips that were on it help a lot). The only problem is that I would like the moon clip capability but getting a sweet gun I could afford was more important. I guess I can always send the cylinder off for machining if I do decide moon clips are a good way to go. In the meantime, I'll just use speed loaders. BTW my 686 is an older no dash model, and the newer ones have the locks and the changed the configuration (not for the better) to accommodate that. I saw a vid that said the cylinder release was moved down a little which both gets in the way of your thumb, and the ability to use a speed loaded without 'working' it into position to get past the release. If that's true I wouldn't like it as much.
I have a 686 with a 6" barrel and it has more than enough heft for me, it's a tad heavy with the 6" barrel and full under lug it's a little nose heavy but handles real well. I think a 27 series would be a little too heavy for me and my family. I LOVE the way the 686 shoots and feels (The Pachmeyer grips that were on it help a lot). The only problem is that I would like the moon clip capability but getting a sweet gun I could afford was more important. I guess I can always send the cylinder off for machining if I do decide moon clips are a good way to go. In the meantime, I'll just use speed loaders. BTW my 686 is an older no dash model, and the newer ones have the locks and the changed the configuration (not for the better) to accommodate that. I saw a vid that said the cylinder release was moved down a little which both gets in the way of your thumb, and the ability to use a speed loaded without 'working' it into position to get past the release. If that's true I wouldn't like it as much.
Stainz
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The 4" 686+ weighs 38.9 oz while the 4" 627 Pro weighs 41.2 oz - that's 2.3 oz - hardly a huge increase. Yes, the frame and cylinder - of necessity - are slightly thicker. The benefits of a spring-loaded front sight, being moonclip-ready, and the x8 capacity are significant.
The 2.5" 686+ weighs 34.1 oz while the similar sized 2 5/8" PC627 UDR weighs 37.6 oz - 3.5 oz more. It is a Performance Center revolver - with several improvements over a production variant. I had a 5" PC627 Jerry Miculek V-Comp - super revolver - but huge looking and feeling. I sold it to fund a second 2 5/8" PC627 UDR - a real sweet shooter.
While I 24/7 carry pocketable CCWs, like my 642, 632 Pro, 351PD, and 296, I do have holsters for my 627 Pro and a PC627 UDR. I carry them very infrequently... the 642 is most commonly found in my pocket.
Stainz
The 2.5" 686+ weighs 34.1 oz while the similar sized 2 5/8" PC627 UDR weighs 37.6 oz - 3.5 oz more. It is a Performance Center revolver - with several improvements over a production variant. I had a 5" PC627 Jerry Miculek V-Comp - super revolver - but huge looking and feeling. I sold it to fund a second 2 5/8" PC627 UDR - a real sweet shooter.
While I 24/7 carry pocketable CCWs, like my 642, 632 Pro, 351PD, and 296, I do have holsters for my 627 Pro and a PC627 UDR. I carry them very infrequently... the 642 is most commonly found in my pocket.
Stainz
I own a 686+ 4" and a TRR8 (627 with rails and the Scandium Alloy Frame) the 686+ is smaller but weighs a little more @ 38.9 oz whereas the TRR8 weighs in @ 35.3.
I'd say I like the TRR8 better but like I said it's bigger and you can tell, the 686+ is a great shooter too. Actually I can't pick
I like them both.
I've thought about using the 686+ as a CCW but I think I'm going to get a 3" version for that purpose.
The only downfall on the TRR8 is the price, it is kinda pricey but I have no regrets.
I'd say I like the TRR8 better but like I said it's bigger and you can tell, the 686+ is a great shooter too. Actually I can't pick
I like them both.I've thought about using the 686+ as a CCW but I think I'm going to get a 3" version for that purpose.
The only downfall on the TRR8 is the price, it is kinda pricey but I have no regrets.
I have the 627 UDR and 686's. I never carry the 686 except IDPA comp. The 627 is big and heavy but it is my favorite 357.
I do carry it when dressed right. It feels good in this Lobo IWB.
Matter of fact my friend got these pix of me doing siding wearing it in a Lobo OWB.
If I knew I was going to be in a gun fight and could not get away I would pick a 4" 625, but I think that 8 rounds of 357 before the reload would be OK too.
I do carry it when dressed right. It feels good in this Lobo IWB.
Matter of fact my friend got these pix of me doing siding wearing it in a Lobo OWB.
If I knew I was going to be in a gun fight and could not get away I would pick a 4" 625, but I think that 8 rounds of 357 before the reload would be OK too.
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My vote is for the 627. I own a 627 and it is a pleasure to shoot.
My favorite all-time revolver is a 5" 27-2. But I'd be hard pressed to chose it over an "L" frame as a "work horse" gun.
This kind of thread clearly defines how diverse and inconsistent a general agreement is that would define the ideal 357 Mag. It's fun to do but I believe most of us walk away more undecided then ever....
For my shooting guns I gave up on this kind of limitation long ago. Both the N frame and L frame 357's are excellent guns and worthy of anyone's first consideration. But why continue to seek the single "perfect gun" for all uses and occasions when we are fortunate to have so many specialized products available, especially from S&W
I can understand the debate when only one or two guns truly limit the ownership options, but I've learned it is a "Don Quixote" type quest to try to find the perfect handgun, or even an adequate one for all occasions. It simply doesn't exist.
So good luck on your quest. I hope we will hear that one perfect debate argument that settles the ideal .357 issue for all time.
This kind of thread clearly defines how diverse and inconsistent a general agreement is that would define the ideal 357 Mag. It's fun to do but I believe most of us walk away more undecided then ever....
For my shooting guns I gave up on this kind of limitation long ago. Both the N frame and L frame 357's are excellent guns and worthy of anyone's first consideration. But why continue to seek the single "perfect gun" for all uses and occasions when we are fortunate to have so many specialized products available, especially from S&W
I can understand the debate when only one or two guns truly limit the ownership options, but I've learned it is a "Don Quixote" type quest to try to find the perfect handgun, or even an adequate one for all occasions. It simply doesn't exist.
So good luck on your quest. I hope we will hear that one perfect debate argument that settles the ideal .357 issue for all time.
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